◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
Pirates starter Mitch Keller was hammered early in this one as he gave up more earned runs (7) than outs (6) in a 10-2 loss to the Reds. Keller gave up six hits, seven runs and walked four in just 2.0+ innings of work to put the Pirates in a 7-0 hole. Don Kelly also got ejected during a “rain delay” as the groundscrew continued to work on the field during a steady rain. With this loss, the Pirates dropped three-of-four to the Reds at the worst time of the season. Jim and DiNardo recap this stinker on the NS9 Postgame Show powered by Primanti Bros. You can watch/listen here:
Here’s my 3 takeaways from this disaster of a game…
Nightmare Scenario Activated with Keller and His Extension
I don’t know what the Pirates can do with Mitch Keller at this point. After his latest dud Sunday, his ERA drops to 5.29. Before this season, at least you could say Keller at least eats inning when he doesn’t have it. He was quality start Mitch. Or he’d at least get through five. I would kill for that version of Mitch Keller to show back up at this point. He’s been awful this season. His last two starts before this game was promising, he looked like he was bouncing back but this one wiped out all of that good equity. He stunk in this one and basically was throwing BP to the Reds lineup from the start. It was his shortest start since July 28, 2025 in San Francisco. And here’s the worst part. They likely missed their window to trade him. There was a lot of talk in the offseason that they would trade Keller to open up some payroll for other pieces and they could have pulled that off. I’m not sure about now.
Keller is under team control for two more seasons and he’s owed $18.4M next season and $20.4M in 2028. This is the nightmare outcome that could happen when you sign a deal like that. With the way he’s been pitching this season, you’d likely have to attach a prospect with him to dump him and the salary or eat some of that money back. I’m not sure what you do at this point, but if you’re going to buy at the deadline and go for it…you can’t run Keller out there every fifth day to start.
Embarrassing Performance
There’s not many ways to put it…this series was an embarrassing performance by the whole team in Cincinnati with the season on the line essentially. You can’t lose three-of-four to the only team behind you in the division. It was an absolute failure at all levels. They only had four hits in this loss! And for the series: Paul Skenes stunk, Mitch Keller stunk, the bullpen stunk, the offense stunk, the Ryan O’Hearn injury stunk. And the series finishes about 24 hours before the trade deadline as Ben Cherington continues to try and improve the team. This team is a game under .500 now and you could argue that buying anything at this point is foolish. They still need at least one relief arm (if not two), probably a starter and you could use some right-handed hitting. Cherington said they would be buying despite what the team does on the field this week so it’ll be interesting to see what they do, but I’m going to guess it’ll be small deals (like Camilo Doval) and players that have years of control for next year and beyond.
Horwitz Returns and Doval’s Debut
Spencer Horwitz returned in this one which is a welcomed addition to this lineup especially with the O’Hearn injury, but he had a tough assignment in Chase Burns for the first MLB pitching he’s seen in more than a month. Not surprisingly, he went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts. Then Camilo Doval made his Pirates debut in a 9-2 game. He got the first out and then gave up a solo home run to Tyler Stephenson. One run in one inning of work on Sunday. I think Doval will be fine, but it was just fitting for this season for the bullpen and fitting for this game that he gave up a home run right away.
Ball is now in Ben Cherington’s court to make a decision at this deadline. What do you think they’ll do? Comment below if you think they’ll buy or sell.
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The Debate
After losing 5 of 6 and falling 3.5 games out, should Ben Cherington still buy at the trade deadline?
normo0066NS9 Legend· 101d ago
Make a trade
With Jim Rosati and Anthony DiNardo.
Chapters
Key takeaways
1
Mitch Keller's start was the worst he has pitched in at least three years. He gave up 7 earned runs and lasted only two innings, and he didn't even give the team length the way he usually does on a bad day.
2
On paper this Reds team is far worse than the Pirates, with three regulars hitting under .200. Losing 3 of 4 in a series they had to win put the Pirates in a bad spot.
3
Brandon Lowe was taken out only because the score was 9-1. It wasn't a sign of a trade, and the Pirates are going to buy at the deadline.
4
Ben Cherington won't stand pat. His job, and the jobs of people under him, are on the line, so the Pirates are 'absolutely buying' before the deadline.
5
Camilo Doval is a C-tier bullpen addition who can help stabilize things. The bullpen still needs a couple of B-tier arms or an A-tier arm on top of him.
Yo. Welcome to the North Shore Nine podcast presented by FanDuel. This is the NS9 postgame show powered by Primanti Brothers. I'm your host, Anthony DiNardo. With me as we have Jim Rosati in Cincinnati right now finishing up this wonderful series. How you doing, Jim?
Wonderful is probably not the accurate word to use for this series. It was a pretty terrible series. you had the awful game on Friday, the postgame show that you and I did to Nardo. And today, the Pirates just outclassed. They were embarrassed today.
the Reds just completely destroyed them. Absolutely nothing against Chase Burns and Mitch Keller looked as bad as he ever has. So, yeah, shitty series, DiNardo. Shitty series. Ended by a shitty game.
So, a lot of talk about the Arizona Diamondbacks series was, is this the biggest series of the year? At least at that point in time, which we understand the implications of why we mentioned that. Was this the worst series of the year?
I can go back to the Cardinals series where they got swept into four games, but that's early on. It didn't have a whole lot of implications. We're going into the trade deadline right now. You're hanging around 500. You're hanging on the outside, looking at the wild card.
And you've already lost that series of the Diamondbacks, right? Which, again, there goes the tiebreaker. So, you have to be better than the Diamondbacks, most likely.
And you're going to Cincinnati. The inferior team, although it's not like it's tremendously inferior, but the inferior team.
You've taken care of business with them all year long. And you lose three out of four. Now, a game under 500 again.
Is this the worst series played of the season?
I don't know if it's the worst series played of the season, but it's definitely, it's maybe the most impactful.
after today's game, you're looking, if everything holds, I think Arizona's down right now, but Philadelphia's on top.
So, you're looking at being three and a half out of the wild card come the trade deadline, which is in roughly 23 hours.
So, you're three and a half days out.
Yeah, the trade deadline's one day, 53 minutes and 21 seconds.
Okay. So, we're coming up on it.
And so, let's just call it 25 hours or so.
Your playoff odds after, going into Tuesday's game were roughly 50-50, according to fan graphs.
After today, they'll be lucky if they're over 20%.
So, this is, I believe, the fourth straight series that they've lost now.
It's a really bad time to be losing baseball games right now, DiNardo.
It's not a good time.
No, it is not.
They've dropped five out of the last six now.
that's not how you want to go into the trade deadline.
Again, like Ben said, it doesn't really matter the outcome of these series.
They are going to buy.
Nothing's going to change their intentions.
But you can't imagine going into this being one out of your last six.
Yeah.
No, that's a disaster scenario, right?
Because, honestly, like if you look at the math, you probably – I don't know how aggressive you should be right now.
But at the same time, this Pirates team, it's – I don't know if they have a choice.
I don't know if they have a choice, DiNardo.
Like, they have to add.
But the math right now certainly isn't great.
Like, they need to be – like, it's not the math, right?
Like, the game's out, three and a half games out, roughly 50 games left to play.
Like, the math is there to where this could happen.
But you now have to be four games better than the Diamondbacks.
You've got to be four games better than the Phillies.
You've got to be three games better than the Padres.
And three games – like, there's four teams now that you have to be multiple games better than from this point forward in order to get into the postseason.
And that's a tough situation that you put yourself into.
And you play a good bit of those this month.
So, that could be good or bad.
But before you get to those games, you also have to think of – there's a four-game series in Milwaukee that this team has to play next.
So, if things are bad, it's not going to get any much better the next four games for them in terms of quality of teams.
Six hits, four walks, two strikeouts, giving up the seven earned.
he came out.
he was going.
He went into the third.
There was intentions of going more than just two innings.
He went into the third, Jim.
He loaded the bases with zero outs.
Zero outs.
you have to take him out at that point in time.
it's a 4-0 ballgame.
It's not as if this team, again, because of the offense that didn't show up today, because of the offense, this team isn't ticking me out of it.
And if you're going to try to win this game, you got to pull him at that point in time and move over.
And that's what they did with Noah Murdock, put him in the game, which again, he didn't help matters.
He allowed all those guys to score.
But yes, Mitch Keller, for the past three years, at least the worst game he's pitched.
It was as bad as I've seen him.
It was it was that bad of a start.
you're even when Mitch Keller is not at his best, he's still typically able to at least give you a little bit of length.
Right.
Right.
And he wasn't able to give you that today at all.
Like I said, six outs, he went out there for the third, but he wasn't able to get a single out in the third inning before you.
Yeah, you had to pull him at that point.
It was it was it was about to get out of hand.
And it did get out of hand, once you pulled him because Murdock let in all those runs anyway.
So at that point, that made the game what?
Seven to nothing after three.
And this offense is good, but seven, nothing against Chase Burns is a tall task.
And at that point, the game was essentially over.
Right.
Oh, yeah, because, again, the offense was also equally, maybe not as equally, but close to equally as pathetic as Mitch Keller was.
We got some supers here.
Let's start off with our boy, Michael B, as always, a $10 super.
Appreciate it, Michael.
Just going to keep it real, guys.
Season is over.
Starting pitching mostly stinks.
Bullpen mostly stinks.
BC abandoned the team.
They needed help months ago, and he hasn't done anything season over.
I'll say this.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for that super chat, Michael B.
If you want to say that the season is over right now, it's hard to argue with you.
It's hard to argue with you.
This is a terrible stretch of baseball that they're playing right now at a terrible time, and they have certainly put themselves in a very difficult situation from this point going
forward.
And, you've got, again, 24 hours till the trade deadline to see what you can do, but I don't know how much you can do at this point.
No, I'm with you, man.
Like, you can't argue it.
Everything just seems to be falling apart.
Again, like, the offense isn't as good as it was.
Again, it's not bad.
Today is more of an anomaly than anything.
But you're losing players right and left, you know?
So, like, there's just no consistency.
The pitching, the same way.
It's like, guys can, like, Braxton Ascrap last start.
We might be getting really close to firing Ben Cherington.
you got two months.
You got two months to make the playoffs, Ben.
Again, like, you're not selling because if you're selling, you're firing Ben right now.
There's too many jobs on the line right now.
Like you said, the math still is there.
They're not out of it so far that they can't come back.
they're going to buy.
But you're right, man.
Like, this is it.
Like, he has to do something.
Bucs On Deck.
$5 just to not have you go to another game again.
Well, I got bad news for everybody because I think I think I'm going to another road game or two.
Not this coming week, but the week after.
So, yeah, I don't know.
We may need to, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe I need, like, a live chicken to sacrifice or something like that.
I don't know.
We need something to break this hex.
Although, I'll say this.
On the year, like, Great American Ballpark has not been very good.
I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that.
Very good.
On the year, though, 10-9 attending Pirates game.
So, 10-9.
Typical Pirates PR talk right here.
Okay.
I saw breaking news.
It's a Yankees move.
They got Luis Garcia, Jr.
Whatever, Jim.
We don't want to hear that right now.
You're never allowed back.
That's a bad series for me.
Not only did they lose three out of four this series, DiNardo.
Yesterday, we had, what, almost a two-hour rain delay.
Today, just one of the most inexplicable non-rain delay, rain delays that I've ever seen.
They just decided to go out there and throw, diamond dry on the field for about a half an hour while it was still raining, as opposed to just putting the tarp on the field, which would have made more sense to me.
But that was an absolutely absurd happening today.
Don Kelly raised his concerns about it.
Like, there were puddles of water all over the field.
And, yeah, Kelly didn't really like the way that everybody was handling the situation.
And he got ejected today.
I think his fifth time getting tossed this year, which leads Major League Baseball.
And the over and under, Brennan Stein, five and a half.
You took the under, Jim.
So, you better not get ejected anymore.
I did.
I'm about to tell him to calm down.
Go down to the clubhouse.
Tell DK to calm down going forward.
Calm your ass down, DK.
All right.
Let's do this.
Let's go ahead and kick it on over to Cody.
We'll come back and finish this thing up.
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We can talk about Mitch Culler being awful.
I'm going to go to the offense here, and then, of course, finish this off at the bullpen the way they finish it off also.
I know Chase Burns is a quality pitcher.
It's one of the better offenses in baseball.
This is, to win this game, you at least tie this series.
It's a big game in that sense, right?
you're at 500.
This is giving you above 500, below 500.
I know in baseball, I know they're thinking, like, it's one game.
It doesn't matter those implications, right?
But still, you have a chance to win this series here.
You're going up against a good pitcher.
And this offense falls completely flat.
as mentioned, they had four hits.
Two of them coming when it was meaningless.
Four hits, three walks, 13 strikeouts.
13 strikeouts.
Yeah, it was a rough day.
at one point, it was like the middle innings, too.
It was right after that delay.
I feel like that, the game at that point was pretty much over already.
But, like, coming out of that delay, the Pirates' offense looked even worse than they did before.
you look at, it was that Valdez walk coming right out of that delay.
But then you had, strikeout.
it was a strikeout after that, two strikeouts in the fifth, strikeout in the sixth, two strikeouts in the seventh.
Like, it was, they just became completely anemic in, like, those middle innings where, if there was ever a chance to do something to make this thing a game, it would have been in that area where, Burns had to sit for 30 minutes in between, in the middle of that Valdez at bat.
So, maybe you're hoping to capitalize on just, like, him being out of routine or something.
But, no, like, they came out of that break completely dead.
Burns came out of that break, as good as he looked beforehand.
And, it was pretty much over.
But, yeah, offensively, Valdez with three strikeouts.
And the one thing that's sticking out to me, I don't know if you can read it, but the bottom there.
Mitch is ass.
Mitch was ass.
That was my main takeaway today.
I'm glad you had to write that down to remember.
Just in case I forget.
Mitch was ass.
Just in case.
Let me make sure.
Mitch was ass.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Jim, what are your thoughts?
Ron Maranaccio comes in.
Two innings.
Two earned.
He gives us a walk.
Two strikeouts.
he had a small sample.
He's looked solid.
The few times he's come in.
He's looked bad.
A few times he's come in.
What are your take today on seeing him?
Well, he's a bad pitcher.
He's a bad pitcher who can occasionally put up a zero every now and then.
I think he's had four appearances so far.
He's given up multiple runs in two of them.
So, he's.
Hey, it's meatball Ron.
sometimes he's going to be the one serving the meatball.
Sometimes the meatballs are going to serve you.
I don't know what that means, but yeah, today, what is happening today?
He was serving up the meatballs.
Is this like a back in Soviet Russia joke template here?
Sometimes back in, back in old land.
It's Italy.
Sometimes the meatballs serve you.
Sometimes the meatballs serve you.
Yeah, it's, it just depends on which meatball shows up that day.
That was the highlight of the game so far.
Sadly.
No, he is what he is, right?
I think if you, ideally, you probably want to bring in two more arms to this bullpen.
And, he's probably like your last bullpen arm in the bullpen, right?
Like you don't want him, you don't want him pitching in any high leverage situations.
But if you need somebody to eat an inning or two, in very low leverage, he's your guy.
Yeah.
Well, here's another $5 super from Michael B.
Of course.
he does say, are you guys even sure Cherington will do anything else by the deadline?
I think he stands pat now and gives his usual BS nonsense.
He sucks.
I would be really surprised if he just stands pat.
I think there's a lot of pressure on him to do something right now.
and I think he's going to do something between now and, 6 PM tomorrow.
Yeah.
Again, I think people need to understand his jobs on the line.
Like you might think what's better for the organization is to stand pat, but his job is on the line and it's not just his, there's other people that underneath him.
Cause again, he's more responsible.
Remember that quote last year with the whole firing of Shelton, right?
I'm more responsible.
He's responsible.
He's going to make sure he does everything he do to keep his job and probably the job of others too.
So again, that's why we're fully in it.
He's they're absolutely buying.
They have to, they have to.
Yeah.
and then, so Yohan Ramirez comes in, like you mentioned, it was a Yohan experience, two innings, no hits, two walks, three strikeouts.
You're holding onto, your seat here.
But at that point in time, again, it was way out.
But he has been, when you look at the numbers, he has been excellent for quite some time right now, as far as the ERA goes.
Yeah.
Outside.
he walk to start the outing.
So it was like, Oh, but is bad Yohan back.
But then he like immediately recovered when strikeout, fly out, got another strikeout in the, in the eighth inning, seventh inning there.
but no, he's been, he's been outstanding since the start of June.
his ERA somewhere in, below right around 0.3 or so, he's been really good, and by far the most effective pitcher in this bullpen.
I think, you get, I'd say him and Mason Montgomery have been probably the two most effective, but Yohan's, it's 19 appearances now where, he's put up a zero in 18 of those.
And multiple times he's given you more than three outs.
So yeah, he's been, he's been really good.
how about, how about Camilo Doval though?
Pirates debut.
That's not what you wanted to see.
That's all I have to say.
Like, I know the game is out of hand and like whatever, but he's coming in.
There's already a lot of hoopla around the trade because like, again, this isn't the old Doval as people remember him.
If people even know who he is, but he was an all-star in 2023.
Like he was the close for the giants.
He was, he was solid.
Like the whip was never always there.
He was a high walk guy, but he was always solid.
He was never a home run guy.
Like he was never giving up home runs until he started pitching for the Yankees.
And that's been his like Achilles heel this year.
Also facing lefties, but regardless, like giving up home runs has been detrimental to him.
So get him out of Yankee stadium.
Okay, cool.
And I was great American small park.
So he can give you that.
But like, all right, like you're making the trade.
That's his problem.
And the first time you see him, what's he do as he's here to help stabilize his bullpen?
He gives up the home run.
Yeah.
Exactly what you said.
Like not what you want to see.
Like you would have loved for him to come in here and just giving you a clean inning.
And he didn't do that.
He gives up the home run to Tyler Stevenson, which by the way, before we actually went on, Tyler Stevenson was being interviewed on the field live.
That, talking to him.
But that was very well could be Tyler Stevenson's final at bat as a Cincinnati red.
So I know he's been around for a really long time.
And he may, he might be getting traded in the next 24 hours.
So he was, he was like crying on the field, literally doing the postgame interview.
But back to Doval, yeah, not what you want to see, right?
The home run has been the issue all year.
We talked yesterday on the emergency podcast, Nate and Neil, about how he's been really effective away from Yankee Stadium.
Well, guess what?
We're away from Yankee Stadium.
If there is a stadium that's pretty similar to Yankee, it's this one.
But, yeah, you definitely don't want to see the home run in the first game back.
It would, it would have been really nice to just get a nice, clean, easy scoreless inning.
And he didn't do that.
So, yeah, now it's, he's got to be better than that, right?
He can't continue to do that.
He's got to, he's got to figure that out.
Yeah, again, that was disappointing to see.
Just, again, of note also, like the, at that, before that, JJ Bleday, it went 326.
Like, it wasn't going out, but it was a hard hit, 97.9.
So, like, you had the hard hit and the next one was over the fence.
So, yeah, it wasn't the debut that you really wanted to see from Doval.
Again, I believe in him in the sense of, we had our trade deadline show.
So, if you guys watch that, you can understand where we're going with this.
Jim and I, we both agreed.
If you were in there, and the reason he wasn't because the Yankees playoff odds were high.
So, anyone that's above a standard unit put in there as a trade piece, he would have fell in the C tier.
And, again, a C tier is fine.
Those players can improve this bullpen.
You probably might need one of those, but you probably need a couple B tier or, like, an A tier as well.
Having him here is fine.
Our expectations are he can probably help stabilize this, right?
He's going to be A piece, but certainly not V piece.
So, again, I still have faith in him and being a C tier type of pitcher for this bullpen, a part of it.
But this bullpen certainly needs more help.
Yep, 100%.
And the bullpen wasn't really the problem today, but, yeah, it has been a problem in recent history.
That's for sure.
So, yeah, not a great debut.
You just said everything that I was going to, so I'm not going to repeat it.
Okay.
Well, Jim, the good news is they get to leave Cincinnati.
The bad news is they get to go into Milwaukee.
Bubba Chandler's on the mound tomorrow, and according to FanDuel, they are plus 128.
All right.
So.
Underdogs.
They got to win.
In fear of losing six out of seven?
That can't be too good.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing the six, seven thing today.
Not in the mood.
Not in the mood, Tyler.
All right.
I called you Tyler.
Not in the mood, DiNardo.
Well, at any rate, though, again, tomorrow is the trade deadline.
We are basically 24 and a half hours away from it.
In 24 and a half hours, we will be live.
Our trade deadline show is tomorrow o'clock at 5.30 p.m., so make sure you tune in.
Hopefully, some things will be done beforehand.
Hopefully, some things will still be coming in because Ben Cherington needs to do more than one thing tomorrow, probably more than two moves.
So, hopefully, as well, it's going to be a good trade deadline show.
We're going to talk about some good things and be excited about it because, again, you're already down, you're already one game below .500, you're at least at this point in time, three games out of the wild card, like you mentioned, probably going to be three and a half, and the Cardinals are right behind you as well, again.
So, yeah, this needs to be a big trade deadline.
Yeah, it's going to be a jam-packed day.
Alex, we'll have an episode of Offbeat for you in the morning.
We're going to have Bucco Brew live tomorrow morning.
We'll have our trade deadline show, like you mentioned, at 5.30.
We'll be live leading up until the deadline and afterwards, and then the Pirates play a baseball game tomorrow night, too.
So, we'll have a post-game show.
So, you're looking at least four shows tomorrow from us.
Yeah, because after a game like this, who doesn't want four more pieces of Pirates content to consume after?
Who doesn't want to see the two of us more often, DiNardo?
No idea.
That just sounds like a stupid thing to not want.
Right.
So, we'll be back all day for you tomorrow.
I can't imagine what would be wrong with those people.
No, not at all.
Let's go.
You got a drive home.
I pity you.
Yeah, I'm ready to be home.
All right, guys.
We love you.
We appreciate you.
We'll see you tomorrow morning, tomorrow, later in the evening, and then tomorrow night.
Bye-bye.
See you, guys.
All right.
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Comments· 1
After losing 5 of 6 and falling 3.5 games out, should Ben Cherington still buy at the trade deadline?