Our 3 Takeaways from Another Ace Performance by Ashcraft

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I'm Tyler.

Doug couldn't make it home in time.

DiNardo's here.

I'm leading.

What the hell's going on?

Pirates, everything's all over the place.

Yeah, what's up, my guy?

We brought in the relief.

We brought in our Mason Montgomery here.

Yeah, except I throw the right hand.

But, pitch just as effectively, just as hard, obviously.

You're an idiot.

But, hey, four earned runs in his last 20.2 innings pitched since June 23rd.

Mason Montgomery.

Oh, yeah, we'll get to him.

Don't worry.

Who's, like, fifth on the list of things to talk about today.

Yeah.

And none of it really started until the fifth inning, other than Braxton Ashcraft.

But before we get into all that, make sure we drop our hashtag raises here in the comments.

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DiNardo, there's one thing to talk about today, I feel like.

Like, one major thing to talk about.

Braxton Ashcraft.

Braxton Ashcraft.

Braxton Ashcraft.

Oh.

Are you worried about him anymore?

I guess.

Are you worried that he's a little bit fatigued?

Dude.

I'll be honest.

Like, I had that concern as well at some point.

But Braxton Ashcraft goes eight innings today.

One run baseball.

Back-to-back outings where he goes.

Well, he goes eight today.

Complete game the last time.

165 innings over 17 innings in two games.

Or 165 pitches over 17 innings.

This run's unreal.

I know it's two games, but this is unreal.

it might just be two games, but those are the two games that are before us that to talk about.

And for these two games, like you mentioned, it's one thing to do it in one game.

he was super efficient the last game.

It was a great start.

Yeah, he gave the one home run in the ninth.

It sours that it could have been like a real Maddox and like a complete game shutout.

Yeah, he gave the home run big deal.

Well, today he gives up another home run, but he goes eight, 80 pitches, 61 strikes.

Like, are you joking me?

And you are correct.

you could have equated to July.

Okay, maybe he's starting to wear down.

he has thrown a lot of innings.

That's the one thing with Braxton Ashcraft.

He came into this season, I think, with what, 118 innings pitch last season.

So again, you understood that the innings limits were going to be there.

But he's been the guy that's been going the distance.

He's been giving this team length.

And you just wonder, at what point are they going to maybe not shut him down, but slow him down?

And he goes the distance last game.

And this game, he goes eight with 80 pitches.

The thing is, too, is like, he's giving this team a lot of innings, but he's not throwing a lot of pitches.

Yeah, that's the big thing, is he's just not really taxed when he's going deep in the games.

Like, every time he goes seven, eight innings, and even going back to early in the year, when he was going deep, it was because he was so efficient.

Like, there are no high-stress innings.

Sure, he had that stretch there in the middle of the summer where things got a little bit rough, and he got beat around a little bit.

But for the most part, every time out there, it's relatively stress-free baseball.

I guess the only thing you could say is stressful for him was they didn't score any runs through five.

So, he might have had the mentality, like, I have to pitch really well, and he gives up the one home run.

Like, that was the most stress, I guess, you could equate.

Like, it had been more of a mental stress than anything, because he was pitching so effectively physically.

The other, like, we're not seeing the velocity tick down either.

Like, we haven't seen that all year, and of course, that's been a major concern with basically everybody that pitches on this team, is the velocity dip.

We haven't seen that from him.

Like, whenever he struggled, it was basically command issues.

Like, the velocity has not dipped at all today.

It was actually up today a decent bit.

He's got the body type that he can really handle a bulk of innings, I think.

Like, comparing him to, like, a Jared Jones.

Jared Jones doesn't seem like the type of guy that's going to give you 200 innings.

If you just look at Braxton Ashcraft, that's a dude that looks like a workhorse.

I know he's got the injury history, but he just looks it.

Yeah, and like, about the injury history, I don't know if you, like, the thing about it is, like, I don't look at him as an injury-prone pitcher, and that's why I'm worried about innings.

He's had injuries in the past, which has limited his innings, which is why you're worried about the innings, because he hasn't gone out there and pitched more than 120 innings.

He hasn't pitched to the level where you then look forward and say, OK, I'm good with giving you 180 this year.

he hasn't gone to that.

So that's why you worry about the innings.

It's not so much because, like, this is a guy who's probably going to be injury-prone for his career.

Like, I could see that being Jared Jones.

You brought that up multiple times.

Not that he's going to be.

I'm not here to tell you that he will be, right?

I think he's a good starting pitcher.

But Braxton Ashcraft looks the part, and he's certainly playing the part.

He also gets lefties out.

He gets everybody out.

All right.

So I mentioned it's been 17 innings for Braxton Ashcraft his last two starts.

He's thrown 165 pitches.

If you give Carmen Mlodzinski 165 pitches, how many innings is he going?

I hate you so much because you said the 17 innings, the last two starts.

And you know where my mind went to right away?

I immediately said, Carmen has half the innings in three starts.

And then that's, of course, how you phrased that question.

I don't know.

Is that the rest of the year?

It might be.

He might get nine innings in.

Unreal.

Just an unreal stretch he's on right now.

And I know two games.

But what it reminds me of, weirdly, just watching, and I know it's a different hand, but watching him pitch right now reminds me of Jay Happ when he was on that run.

And what by that, Flores did not move his glove all night.

And that's what it was like with Happ.

You set up.

He's going to locate it exactly where he wants it.

That's what he looks like right now.

He can throw the ball wherever he wants to throw it.

And what I'll allude and say to that, he didn't look nasty in a swing and miss.

The pitches were nasty, though.

Yeah.

this is one of those starts, like, he wasn't racking up the whiffs, and that's why the pitches looked nasty.

The pitches were still equally as nasty, though.

Like, you talk about location.

he was throwing for strikes, obviously for strikes, right?

61 strikes and 80 pitches, though.

He was clearly throwing a lot of caught looking.

Like, his stuff was just so good tonight.

We have Doug, who has entered the comments because he's pulling his own Carmen Mlodzinski, and he'll appear whenever he feels like it.

Well, at least he's determined he's not a starter.

He might come in for relief today, but he's not a starter.

I'll tell you what, these young guys, you bring them in, and then they get a little bit arrogant.

He's acting like he's in a contract here, DiNardo.

Yeah, well.

Love you, Doug.

Can't spell DFA without D, like Doug.

But Ashcraft, again, he finished with 12 ground outs.

Yeah, 12 ground outs to three fly outs.

Kept the ball on the ground.

The only person that really was able to square him up was Cole Keith tonight.

It was basically just weak contact.

At one point, it felt like we might have, we joked that we might have a Braxton Ashcraft no-hitter.

Is that a little peek behind the curtains there?

Just a little peek.

Yeah, Alex finished recording his podcast.

He's like, all right, it's ready for tomorrow, which, by the way, for members, it's already out there.

He's like, all right, it's already ready for tomorrow unless Braxton does something I got to record another show for.

And, man, I'm telling you, I wished, I really wanted to make Alex have to record another show.

And it was looking that way.

But then he gave it the home run.

It's like, all right, yeah, this isn't going to be podcast number two worthy.

But you're right, man.

It was rolling that way for a little bit of time.

Outstanding again.

What more can you say about the guy?

He's efficient, good, nasty.

I love watching him pitch.

I really do.

It's crazy.

And, like, again, it's not like it's a high ERA.

Like, we're not talking about a guy who has, like, in the fours ERA, but he has a 368 ERA now.

Perfectly fine.

But I guess this is, like, the contrast to Paul Skenes's.

Because I made that joke a little bit on Buck and Brew.

Like, they both had the same ERA at that point.

It was a 3.88.

Although Braxton's lower today because they changed one to an error.

Or I forget which game or who it was.

But today they just changed a hit to an error and that lowered his ERA.

However, I don't, like, how is this ERA this high?

You know what?

Like, I know he had some struggles, but it's like those struggles were just so minute.

And it's just, I don't, he's not a 368 ERA pitcher.

You know?

Like, don't you get that?

Like, it's just like, he should be, like, at three because of those struggles.

Right.

Like, it feels like he's a sub three.

Right.

Like, he's been good, must watch for the majority of the year that it's like, where'd the 368 come from?

I don't know.

Because when it was ballooning to four, it was like, this doesn't feel right.

Right.

But Ashcraft, good.

Good to see him good.

It's nice to actually have an ace.

I know I joked about this a bit.

Before we go, though, I know I joked about this, but isn't it ironic?

And I know it's a joke and in jest, and I love the guys for doing it, whatever.

But you had a little bickering and back and forth with Paul Skenes and Bubba Chandler about who's going to be the opening day starter.

And then here just quietly comes Braxton Ashcraft.

Yeah.

Have fun, guys.

I'm the real stud on this team.

He is, though.

Man.

It was quiet, though.

You mentioned the stress that he might have had just from the Pirates' offense being non-existent for quite some time today.

It was very inactive until the fifth inning, as Berlin Valdez walked.

And then we had the return of Oneil Cruz, who I know you want to talk about, DiNardo.

I think it's still going to take some time for O'Neal to get back really in the swing of things.

I think he's going to struggle for a few weeks here.

And we saw some of that today.

But you see how he can change a game with one swing.

And that's exactly what he did.

The first hit the Pirates get today is like a 422-foot home run.

Yeah.

That changed the lead.

And they never looked back.

Never looked back.

I say this.

yeah.

That excited me.

That excited me.

Just because.

Especially Facebook.

And you know my stance on people on Facebook.

I love to just.

They annoy the hell out of me.

So.

And I'll say this.

As far as platforms go, he's probably the most hated on Facebook.

Yes, this is my battle of Facebook.

It's creeping up once again.

But no, for real.

To be honest, though.

Like, this is also the thing I mentioned on Bucco Brew.

Like, Oneil Cruz is a guy where timing is everything.

Like, he's got to be in the right space.

this could certainly be a guy that's going to struggle coming up here.

Only having six games under his belt in his rehab.

So.

You're going to have to afford him some struggles.

Just like you afford many rookies that come up their struggles.

Like, he's going to have to get his timing down.

He's probably not going to come up right away and be a game changer.

But he does.

He does today.

And he shows exactly what it.

He hits the home run.

Like I said, time and time again.

Like, when he went down with the injury, he was top 10 in RBI, top 10 in runs.

He's producing.

I understand the strikeout rates, like, basically about 35% or close to that.

But if it takes him to strike out 35% of the time to do the other things that he's doing, this is the Oneil Cruz I want.

And that's what you saw today.

You saw everything today.

It really was the full Oneil Cruz experience as well.

Because even, was it the first inning?

It might have been the first fly ball of the game.

He catches the ball down there by his waist.

Makes it a little bit more difficult than it probably needed to be.

And I was waiting on him to drop it.

But then you have the swing and miss as well.

And you have the home run.

It is the full Oneil Cruz experience.

It was.

he gave.

there was no harm, no foul on anywhere, right?

Like, he didn't do anything today to.

To lead to any disastrous stuff or, all.

It was just like, maybe you shouldn't have caught the ball like that.

But the ball was caught, right?

So, yeah.

both sides could have something to say today.

he does have the two strikeouts.

But again, like, that's the point I want to make.

Just like you said.

He's probably going to be a guy that's going to take about two more weeks.

Especially that type of injury.

There's going to be some soreness.

there is some soreness, you know.

Right.

You're bringing him back because, like, you have to.

He's still probably your best chance.

if he can physically play because the injury's healed, you're just managing pain and soreness.

I'd rather him adjust up here than adjust down there because he still probably gives his team a better chance being where he's at.

Probably.

Than down there.

And, yeah.

Like, he does it.

He does that today.

Damn right.

But I do want to say something, too.

I do want good Oneil Cruz stuff.

The communication between him and Ezmerlin.

Yeah.

Like, that was an early season.

Huge problem.

And he came out there and he showed his dominance that I'm the center fielder.

This is my ball, which is probably something that the corners aren't too used to.

And this is in my dig at, by all means, not my dig at Jake Mangum.

But, again, he's a freak athlete.

He can cover more ground.

Right.

And so, like, Ezmerlin's going out there and it's like, no, this is my ball.

And he made that communication be known.

And he didn't have any issues in that exchange there.

So.

He was in his pocket in right field.

Yeah.

He was in front of the Clemente wall when he caught the ball.

Yeah.

You're right there.

And that's something I do want to watch as well as Ezmerlin and Oneil Cruz together.

Just, like, I know Marcelo Zuma.

Ozuna was probably a big.

Like, he was probably important to Cruz.

Or at least that's the way it seemed when that's the way it was told to us.

On a flip side, Ozuna's the grizzled vet.

He's seen a lot of things.

He's been around a long time.

Then you flip it to an Ezmerlin Valdez, who's just this fun-loving kid.

How can you not put a smile on your face?

I'm just curious to watch those two.

I don't know why I just.

Well, I know why.

Because they're both exciting.

Very true.

That's partly why they're both exciting.

They've combined for 29 home runs.

There you go.

We just have someone hanging around in the dugout like he's Carmen Mlodzinski.

Is there going to be a bullpen move?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's your show.

I'm going to make a quick call to the pen here.

All right.

Hey, Carmen.

I'm here.

I'm available.

I've decided.

I've had enough rest.

I am pitching again tomorrow.

Listen, I've got a lot of power in this organization.

I'm not the assistant general manager.

I'm the assistant to the general manager.

I have the power to make this call.

Thanks, Dwight.

Beats, baby.

Beats.

Anyway, yes.

My apologies.

It was one of those days.

Just kept going and going and going.

But excited.

Excited.

And I've been home for a while.

I just didn't think he wanted me in.

I went out and walked the dog.

But, yeah.

So, anyway.

DiNardo, thank you.

I don't know if you want to, you know.

the people love you.

I don't want to be the guy that kicks you out.

you've only thrown 70 pitches.

60 strikes.

And you know what?

I've been going max effort.

My arm's getting a little tired right now, too.

So, I could.

You've got to take a page from Skenes, man.

It's up to Don Kelly.

We're not going to go.

We're not going to, we're going to lower velocity by design.

It's our plan to pitch poorly.

We'll make a call to the pen here because the people do love Doug.

I'm a man of the people.

Do we need our starter for the rest of the season?

I can't believe they're pulling DiNardo after only four innings.

He was throwing the heat.

His stuff looked great.

What are you doing, Donnie?

Next thing you're going to bat Jared Triolo lead off.

Well, I guess I can let DiNardo come out of the game if he would like here.

All right.

Appreciate DiNardo for filling in well.

Thank you.

Thank you, DiNardo.

Doug was walking his dog.

Team player.

I was.

I was walking the dog.

Get me the win, Doug.

That's all I got to say.

Get me the win.

I'm going to Mason Montgomery this thing like nobody's business.

Got to love it.

Before we talk to Doug about some of this game, we got to give a shout out here to Steel City DW.

Steel City, thank you for the tenor here.

Happy birthday, Roberto Clemente.

Retire 21.

Doug, talk to DiNardo a little bit there about the Buccos 4-1 win.

Make sure we're dropping a hashtag crazy here in the comments.

I'll let you have the floor here to give your praise of Braxton Ashcraft.

Because I feel like everybody needs to today.

Yeah.

what an outing.

And what a follow-up.

as a Pirates fan, especially these last 26 years or so, you do not expect.

Like somebody comes in and throws a gem like that, and then, he's out in the third inning by his next start thing.

We just don't get that.

We haven't gotten it from our starters this year.

And Braxton Ashcraft, we have an ace right now.

he is our ace this year.

He's won 20% of our games.

I know pitcher wins don't count, blah.

But, what do we have, 61 wins?

62 wins?

We've got 62 wins.

He's won 13 of them.

he's just outstanding.

And like you said, he didn't have, like you guys were saying earlier, he didn't have his best stuff.

It wasn't all swing and miss.

He just throws strikes and gets outs, man.

It's just fantastic.

You said it early in the season.

It's more fun watching him pitch than watch Skeen's pitch, right?

Just because just the way he just gets after it, fills up the strike zone, gets outs, keeps things moving so fast that this game finished in like 27 minutes.

I thought you guys were playing it on one and a half or something.

So, it really got me there, Braxton.

But, man, what a, yeah.

And it's, I'm with DiNardo.

I don't think he's injury prone.

I think he had injuries, right?

He just had injuries.

He's overcome that.

He is right out of central casting for a starting pitcher.

Big old strong kid from Texas.

But, yeah, just what more can you say?

Tip of the cap.

You guys covered it quite well.

I can hardly wait until his next start.

You know what I'm saying?

It's like in a season that there's not much, to care about.

I want to see how he finished.

I want to see what he does.

And I'm really looking forward to what he does next year with maybe some of the restrictions come up because he'll have his innings in.

That thing.

I also just add on to that.

I know you mentioned the pitcher wins, but, and I'm not a pitcher win guy either.

But when you go deep in the games like Ashcraft has, that's where pitcher wins actually matter to me because he's legitimately going out and winning games.

He's going seven, eight innings.

Right.

But I don't know the breakdown of his 13 wins, but I would venture to guess probably half of them.

He's gone pretty deep into the game.

Right.

Right.

that's exactly it.

It's not the W that he gets, in his record.

It's the fact that on a team that did not have much of a bullpen, he was avoiding, having to use them.

That was, that was his big value.

It's that you didn't have to bring in a guy, maybe until the, eighth inning or sometimes, because he went seven innings a couple of times, went in, pitched into the seventh, that thing.

Right.

And that's, he's not being pulled in the fifth when they're up by 10.

For sure.

For sure.

And he's not, Mitch Keller was supposed to give us innings and he did not.

And schemes was supposed to give us innings and he did not.

And so the fact that Ashcraft did, it's just been a huge boost for this team.

He, man, his last two starts, he's needed one inning of relief and I'm not sure that he needed that.

He had any pitches like he could have gone, you know.

Yeah.

But I was okay with it there.

Yeah, me too.

Just cool.

Keith had hit him hard twice.

McGonagall put them in play hard.

you're at the top of the order.

Give Mason Montgomery some work as well.

Cause I wouldn't, I like him in that ninth inning slot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's cement him there.

Cause he looks good.

Yeah.

Well, we'll get to him as well.

but real quick, just to finish up the, offense here, Spencer Horwitz added the Pirates third run with a single.

And then in the eighth, Bryan Reynolds gave a little bit of insurance run or a little bit of insurance there, with a single to score tree.

Although offense really wasn't that magical today, but they did just enough to win the game.

Six hits.

this is what we thought we were going to see.

Right.

This is the, this is what we thought was going to be this team's formula for wins this year was that you would get good starting pitching.

The offense would score just enough runs and, then you'd close it out with, Dennis Santana and other people that are no longer around.

So yeah, it's a good win.

it's, again, it's pretty much how they planned it.

It's not how it's gone this year, but, it was nice to see the offense score a few.

It's nice to keep, see them keep adding on, which is, which is good.

And, nice to see production.

let's face it.

If Cruz had gone home for four today, this entire chat would be saying he's a bum and he should not be back.

So, right.

So the home run was nice.

That was a nice return.

It's nice to see Horwitz back.

Yeah.

So.

And then talked about the offense there.

The other guy that was brought up early.

And I do want to talk about a little bit here is Mason Montgomery.

He has been absolutely lights out.

Lights out.

Nasty.

The fastball is insane.

When he throws strikes, he is unhittable.

Yeah.

Flat out unhittable.

And he's been throwing strikes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a, what a trade, right?

If we would have traded Michael Burroughs and got Mason Montgomery back, we'd all be happy with the results right now.

Had we traded Mason Montgomery and got Brandon Lowe back, we'd all be happy right now.

Had we traded, Mike Burroughs and got Jake Mangum back.

I think we'd all be happy.

And we got all three.

It's so out of character for Ben Sherrick to trade.

It's stunning.

usually they hang around for five years.

And then we finally, we finally give up on them.

Although we should have given up on them after the first, season or whatever.

So, yeah.

Montgomery looks good.

He looks calm and collected.

Right.

He doesn't seem to, be bothered by too much.

It's yeah.

It's just, he looks like a closer right now.

He's not shying from the moment.

That is for sure.

And I think that's something you do worry about.

I know there's the thought about the closer by committee thing.

I still think there is something to be said about just knowing your role and knowing that ninth inning is mine.

And I think there are only certain people that can handle that as well.

Some guys, you put them in the ninth inning, they crumble.

It is what it is.

We've seen that over the years through all of baseball.

Absolutely.

Tony Watson was a lights out setup, man, but wasn't a closer.

you see it and we see the need for roles.

when guys, who's normally your closer, you bring them in the eighth inning, they give up two runs, because they're not there.

you see a guy who, bats second all the time, suddenly get moved to fourth or something.

Baseball players are creatures of routine and they like knowing the roles.

They, it's part of what, has Mijinsky.

So, bunched up, it's like, I want to know my role.

I want to do that.

I want to do this.

I want to blah.

But yeah, I like, and again, I'm not against, Montgomery doesn't have to close out every game.

Some, if we need him tomorrow, if you go with, I'm not mad that they're ever going to throw the Weaver.

Sometimes you'd go with best matchups, but generally speaking, Luke Weaver is one of the best setup men in all of baseball, maybe the best.

And Mason Montgomery looks like a, and Mason Montgomery looks like a lights out closer right now.

That's a pretty good eighth and ninth.

And they'll both be on the team next year.

So if there is a next year.

Right.

And Mason Montgomery has not given up on their own runs since July 26th.

Pretty good.

That's, that seems like a long time.

Pretty good.

It is now August 18th.

20.

That's more than three weeks.

And it's not like he's not pitching.

Yeah, exactly.

It is not like they are not using them because they don't, they didn't have much else there.

He's.

He's been awesome.

Flat out.

Awesome.

One of the few relievers I've enjoyed watching for the most part of this year, there was a stretch there early in the year where he was a little bit frustrating, but.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Early on, he didn't have his command.

And, we had no idea.

She was going to find him.

And.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Does Billy Murphy get credit?

Does Billy Murphy get credit?

I think you have to give him credit there because something did click with Mason Montgomery throughout this year.

And he looks like a legitimate top flight reliever.

It's not.

Like, this is his, this is his first full season, right?

Yeah.

We have him for a while, right?

This is like very encouraging.

And it is not fluky.

As you said, unhittable when he's in the zone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Yeah, we had a lull there where it was let them eat cake, but not let them eat sandwiches.

Well, the Pirates will try to get another series against the Tigers tomorrow where FanDuel has them favored at minus 148 with Paul Skenes's on the mound.

Sounds like a bet I would not take.

No.

Gosh, no.

You can't do it right now.

Right?

You just can't.

you'll say darn after if he, goes out and throws seven shutout innings.

But right now, you can't give up 148 to get 100 on what we've seen.

Yeah.

It's going to be a no for me, dog.

All right.

Appreciate you all for hanging out.

We'll be back with you tomorrow.

Doug and Cody.

Me and Cody.

I'll be on time.

I'm not leaving the house tomorrow.

So there we go.

I will.

Appreciate y'all for hanging out.

We'll be back with you tomorrow.

Peace out, Girl Scouts.

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