◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
The Pirates decide to give fans a sliver of hope as they comfortably handle the Red Sox on Friday night 8-4. The offense came back to life behind the bats of Rafael Flores and Esmerlyn Valdez as the rookies carried the team to an easy 4-run victory. Bubba Chandler had a solid start and even got hopping mad that he gave up 2 runs to begin with. The Pirates sit 5.5 games out of a wild card, and the prayer is that they can take advantage of the Sox being ice cold. Watch Dinardo and Tyler break the game down in further detail here:
In true Pirates fashion, tonight was a time to get excited about the future. Bubba Chandler was unlucky to only go 5 innings, but looked good. Rafael Flores, Esmerlyn Valdez, and Jacob Gonzalez combined for 5 hits, 4 RBI, and 3 runs. The first 2 broke the game open to an early 3-0 lead by the 4th inning, and the team never looked back. It was nice to see from this trio. Especially since they have struggled mightily to perform in the month of August specifically. While the team has slipped out of realistic playoff chances, the fans still around can try to find joy in the young talent that is on the active roster. Gonzalez and Flores becoming useful pieces in 2027 would help fill holes on the roster much easier on a Bob Nutting-sized budget. We can dream that these guys help us get back into competitive baseball.
The most surprising part of tonight is that the team actually won a game when Brandon Lowe hit a big home run. His 3-run nuke in the 5th put the game completely out of reach, and the Red Sox never came close to matching the Bucs after going down by 5 runs. Lowe is a streaky hitter, but he has been the most clutch player on the team, and we simply haven’t given him the help he deserves. I’m sure it has to pain him a little on the inside to have this disappointing year while his old team has the best record in baseball. He hit home run number 26 tonight and is going to easily hit 30 bombs with elite defense to boot. He has finally stayed healthy for a full season, and it is all going to be for nothing. I hope they can extend him because he deserves to have Buctober more than almost anyone else on this team.
So far, Luke Weaver has been on a Yinzer vacation instead of being a pitcher. Tonight he was featured for an inning and looked elite. He finished off his inning on 11 pitches, and there were 9 strikes along the way. He makes pitching look relaxing, which is a major shift away from the majority of the bullpen. However, we have yet to see him close or even pitch in a game that’s competitive because of how bad the team has been recently. I want to see him shut the door on an opponent in a close game so I can feel good about our closer situation going into next season. Let me see a pitcher not named Gregory Soto try to close out a 1-run game in the 9th, please!
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The Debate
Should the Pirates bring Oneil Cruz back now for the playoff push, or let him finish a full rehab stint first?
TheBigGaberAll-Star· 89d ago
I want to see Weaver in a big inning so bad.
With Anthony DiNardo and Tyler Sweeney.
Chapters
Key takeaways
1
Rafael Flores and Ronny Simon aren't in the 2027–28 lineup plans, but they have to start against every lefty now because hitting lefties is the one thing they do competently.
2
The slide isn't really about depth. It's the core that disappeared: Brandon Lowe, Bryan Reynolds, Paul Skenes, and Mitch Keller (because of injury). Valdez, Flores, and Simon have done their part.
3
The Pirates have to be at or above .500 by September 1 before it's fair to say they're playing for something.
4
If the Pirates claw back into the race, Esmerlyn Valdez has to be a major reason why. He's punching back after the league adjusted to him.
5
Rushing Oneil Cruz back without a full rehab stint is the wrong call. With all his swing and miss, expect a rough stretch in meaningful games.
Yo. Welcome to the North Shore Nine podcast presented by FanDuel. This is the NS9 postgame show powered by Primanti Brothers. I'm your host, Anthony DiNardo. With me, we got Tyler and TyTy. Pirates win today, 8-4. How you doing?
It's a nice little win as you try to figure out your blurriness of your camera, which, to Nardo, you just look significantly better when you're blurry.
Just like this Pirates team looks better when they're blurry.
But, yeah, a nice little win over the Red Sox, who are playing really good baseball right now.
Don't want to make too much out of it, but that's back-to-back really nice games by your Pittsburgh Pirates.
Yeah.
This is a really good game.
Back-to-back, like you mentioned, big wins.
I don't know if it's too little, too late.
That's to be determined.
That's for them to decide.
But, at any rate, they've responded well after when Don Kelly mentioned that there was a message being sent to everybody.
The pitching has been good.
The bats have awakened.
And today, Bubba has a good start.
Four fantastic innings.
Does give up two and five.
Still a good start.
But that's certainly not the talk of today.
They do have the Boston Red Sox coming into town.
The Boston Red Sox have a lefty taking the mound, which you know what that means.
But also, Tyler, three of them.
Three lefties today.
And the Pirates put up eight runs.
That's the story.
That is the absolute story today.
For sure, but even then, like the other part of it is, like you use, you make the Red Sox use some of those lefties today, maybe.
Maybe you'll get lucky enough that they'll have to be down one of these games throughout this series.
Because we know that's a problem for the Pirates, is that they don't hit lefties very well.
So, if you're able to get to the bullpen early like they did today, that bodes well for the entire series.
It's always good to jump out and get the first one.
It is.
Well, yeah, for the same reasons why it's good not to walk the leadoff walk or hitter, you know?
Getting the first one usually leads to good things.
So, this is a team that took only one out of three in Miami.
Doesn't look good, but if you take two out of the three against Boston, it's better.
Hell, if you sweep them, then you know what?
All things remain the same.
You're still in it.
This is the start of that.
And again, facing a lefty.
That's their kryptonite.
Yeah, they have to go on a pretty significant run here.
And by significant, they need to basically win almost every single ballgame they play for a month and a half.
But, two in a row, two really nice wins.
You can't be mad about it because if you're looking at this series, obviously you can't be mad about it.
Like, what the hell am I talking about?
I'm telling you what, I'm coming with hard-hitting analysis tonight.
But, no, you got to get that first one out of the way, especially when you're looking at a series where you're going to face some lefties here.
Bennett's not a bad pitcher by any stretch.
And they jumped on them early.
And not to give the whole show away.
This was like the first time it felt like you got to really watch the bullpen as a whole.
And I felt pretty darn comfortable.
Well, it was the first time.
It's not like it was like it was.
It's August 14th, and we finally got to see this revamped bullpen.
Right.
Luke Weaver came in for his second appearance in the Pirates uniform with a lead.
First time with a lead.
Second time in total.
But you're right.
Like, you got to see what this team should be post-All-Star break and post-trade deadline.
And it's unfortunate, the skid that they had.
But this is what they look like as far as that bullpen goes.
And, again, pitching, they gave it four runs.
But, ultimately, the pitching was certainly fine.
Boba had a good start today.
Five innings.
Two earned.
Again, four looked fantastic.
Then he started to struggle that inning there.
And, again, the two runs were given up.
But he had a very good start on his plate today.
But then Greg Soto comes in.
They talked about it in the broadcast, which I think certainly showed it.
Because Soto was warming up as Bubba was pitching.
They're ready to pull him if needed, it looked like.
Gregory Soto comes in early.
We've talked about this before, as far as lefties go.
Well, Sisk is gone.
So, that makes things easier.
But, like, Soto, the first one out the pen.
Given to Lefty in the sixth inning.
And he does a...
In a Soto way, he does a fantastic job.
He looked like Gregory Soto.
Which is incredibly frustrating.
I hate watching him pitch.
He reminds me of Antonio Bastardo.
But he's effective, for the most part.
So, like...
This team is starting to finally...
Well, not finally.
This team is now treating these games like they're really must-win games.
Like, I guess what I do want to allude to here is, and this also goes to Ezmerlin, you're saying that these guys have to step up.
And the thing about this season and this team is, for the most part, give or take a few guys, like the password who was sent down, he really wasn't part of this group, unfortunately.
And it's not to tear him up down or anything.
Again, all these guys are rookies for the most part.
But, a lot of the guys that have had to come up and step in and fill in some big shoes, they've done so.
And, as you mentioned with Rafael Flores right now, like, he's one of those guys that has to step up and perform right now during the stretch.
Like, this is what this Pittsburgh Pirates team has actually done.
honestly, the reason that they're where they are today isn't even so much.
Like, I know you talk about lack of depth, and that is, I think, more, of course, on the pitching side, obviously.
But, it isn't even so much on the depth in that sense.
It's the guys that you are counting on not performing.
When the, when this stretch of game started, like, Brandon Lowe disappeared.
It shouldn't have been counted a hit to begin with.
But they did give him the hit.
And then it got taken away.
Count as the error.
But that also drove in some runs.
Like, that was a big error by him.
So, but yeah.
the bats, again, like, it was funny.
Like, the bats didn't come alive in a big way.
This team was just super clutch.
When guys are on, they drove them in.
they had 9 total hits.
They scored 8 runs.
They had 9 total hits and 1 walk.
It's not as if they had, like, 15, 16 guys on base.
You scored 8 runs.
They had 10 guys on base.
They only left 2.
Well, I guess actually 3.
They left 3.
They maximized their opportunities.
They did.
And the long ball came through tonight.
Mm-hmm.
Which is something we've been waiting on.
And you have to have, you gotta hit the ball over the wall.
You're just, plain and simple, not going to be able to string together enough hits to really be a really good offense.
You have to hit home runs.
They did that tonight.
I think, speaking of Valdez a little bit there, I think we're seeing he's coming out of that slump he was in.
And at least what I'm seeing out of him is we're just, he seems a lot less passive right now.
I know there's been a lot of talk about his plate discipline, which has been really good.
And he's still walking at a, he was still walking at a good rate while he was struggling.
But we saw him, I think, a little bit too passive where the swing decision was just too late.
Mm-hmm.
Right now, I think we're seeing him start to get back into that mode of attacking.
And it's good to see him adjust back to the league because the league did adjust to him.
They started coming in on him.
I think that backed him off the plate of touch.
Now we're seeing him make an adjustment back.
The league punched him.
He's punching back right now.
And that's again, like rookies need to be afforded the opportunity to have the struggles and develop and learn.
And that's what you're seeing with Valdez do.
he was still walking.
That was the positive he can take in his major struggle, the biggest struggle he's had so far.
And he was still getting on base at like over 35% of the time.
I don't know if he was pressing.
he just lost.
He was just lost, but he wasn't seeing any good pitching either, to be fair.
And past few games, he's starting to turn it back on.
So if he's coming through, Oneil Cruz is awaiting here in the mists.
He's going to be coming up at some point in time, putting things together.
there's, I'm not here to say this team is going to now just suddenly be good against lefties.
I'm not, but if they are going to be competent enough that they're not dropping too many games versus lefties and still can be in it as long as they're also winning against righties, it's going to be because Valdez is back,
and they're getting contributions from others like Rafael Flores, like you mentioned.
If this team is going to somehow get their way back into this.
To be fair, he's brain allows also been relatively consistently not good versus lefties all year.
No, but today, but today three run shot off of a lefty.
So to speak to him too, that's also why this team was where they're at.
Not just because they rely on the guys that do typically hit lefties.
It's because guys like Brandon Lowe who has struggled versus lefties all single week game of the year for the most part came through a huge day.
It is 26th home run, three run shot.
that it was a four, two ball game.
It's not, it's not anything that makes any Pirates fan feel safe, but it's a four, two ball game.
They were in the lead and that three run shot that made a lot of people feel a lot better about this game.
And I'm sure even for that team itself and Don Kelly and his bullpen usage going forward.
Now that lead looks very comfortable.
It was huge.
Mm-hmm.
Like that home run was huge.
And it's a four, two game at that point.
I was starting to get a little bit worried.
you've got a long way to go with this bullpen.
And in all reality, it's a, at least your higher leverage guys haven't been used very much.
So who knows what you're walking into there.
I tend to believe in the group they have at this point.
Or, at least three of these guys, but not feeling that comfortable with a four, two lead in the, what was it?
The fifth inning.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Not feeling great about that.
Right.
But yeah, that's the way and the way, because also how it became a four, two ball game, because there's a four, nothing ball game.
Right.
And I'll tell you what, we'll transition to that.
Just get a couple more supers here.
So thanks for the $2, Silas TV, Cruz this weekend, or nah.
I don't know.
He wasn't going to be here today.
He was still in Altoona.
again, this is a tough injury to come back from.
You've been out of baseball for two months.
There's a lot of timing.
I get maybe why rushing Cruz, because you're at your ends here.
Like something needs to give.
YOLO.
Let's see if Cruz can add something here.
Because again, you know what you have without him, but also at the same time, we're talking about fair fairness to players.
Like it's not fair to have Cruz go in a few minor league games and come back and now try to win this season, take this team to the playoffs after that injury.
So I'm going to stick with nah.
I think we do.
I don't think it's the right call though.
And I think it's going to be a rough stretch for Oneil Cruz when he comes back.
Nothing against him.
It's just the type of player he is.
There's a ton of swing and miss in the game.
He's going to struggle off the bat.
So that's why you have these rehab games.
And yeah, if you're not going to give a guy like Oneil Cruz the comfortable amount that you probably should give him to get him ready to make an impact in the major league
level, then yeah, you're asking for the struggles to come up here as he's getting his timing down at the major league level and important, meaningful games.
And if I can pivot off that to Nardo there, another part of that is you're putting Oneil Cruz, well, potentially putting Oneil Cruz back in center field, which getting rid
of Marcell Ozuna might make things a little bit easier because you can DH Cruz now.
But with that being said, I'd be remiss if I didn't shout out the play that was made by Jake Mangum out there and the relay by Jared Triolo in the fourth inning after a broken
bat single in the infield that probably should have scored a run.
Mangum barehands it perfect throw, perfect relay by Triolo, perfect tag by Henry Davis.
My God, that was gorgeous.
For the team that has fundamentals escape them nightly.
That was perfect.
Just well done.
Well done.
Absolutely.
And just the wherewithal by Jake Mangum there to grab that with his bare hand off the wall.
And I've been harsh on him time from time to time because he does some silly things.
But the wherewithal to grab that barehanded because they needed every split second they had.
And then just a terrific relay by Triolo, terrific tag by Davis.
if they don't throw him out there, three run game with two guys on at the end of it's a tie ball game with a home run.
And again, like you mentioned, all three parties, it was just done perfectly on all of them.
And if it wasn't perfect, if any of them was just good and not perfect, that run probably scores.
So, yes, absolutely.
Shout out to those three.
Yeah, it was a well, very good play.
It was nice to see good defense by this team.
Right.
What's Doug doing giving us 440 joules?
Doug gives us 440 joules and Doug calls us on unk alert.
Doug, what are you doing?
Oh, do we?
Did Doug get hacked?
Yeah, it's possible.
Are we sure?
Are we sure this is even Doug doing this?
Is he not sure how he's working?
Did he accidentally give us joules?
I don't know.
He was probably trying to jump on the show.
I did want to go ahead and get into Bubba.
So, before we give off the free sandwiches, and again, get your hashtag raises in the comments.
We're going to give away those sandwiches here shortly.
I stated that the offense was certainly the talk.
we did talk about them.
But I do want to talk about Bubba here because we saw what Ashcraft did yesterday.
Amazing.
Beautiful.
If this team is going to be good, they have to get some good performances out of starting pitching.
Bubba was on a roll today also.
I want to get, again, I know the fifth inning wasn't great.
The fifth inning started with two walks.
That's never led to good things.
And it continues to defeat starting pitchers.
But before we get to the fifth inning, to talk about the first four, he looked outstanding.
I'm not saying he was Bubba, or Bubba.
It wasn't Braxton Ashcraft level outstanding, but he looked outstanding.
And we've been talking about Bubba turning a corner, and you were seeing a lot more of that today.
You did.
You did, DiNardo.
And, well, he's been better.
Like, his last, he's had starts better than today, for sure.
But I thought, yeah.
He did a good job of getting ahead of hitters.
Like, stuff-wise, I thought he looked really good.
And even with that, like, the command issues just really popped up in that fifth inning.
The two walks are what ended up hurting him there, and what led to him being taken out of the game.
Probably, but it might have been a little premature.
Because if this is a May 15th game, Bubba's out there for the sixth.
And then if he gets through that, we're talking about a six-inning, two-run game.
It's a really strong start.
It's just in the position they're in right now.
They pulled him when they did, and it's fine with that.
He's also coming off.
And also, let's just say, but also, like, yes, kudos to Kelly and all that for doing that.
Yeah.
But he's also in that situation, and I don't want to make excuses for him, because you have to learn to get through this.
He's coming off a long inning there in the fourth.
Pirates put up three runs.
It's a little bit longer.
You were sitting around a while.
Didn't hurt Ashcraft yesterday, but hurts Bubba today.
Thought the slider looked good.
Waited a little while to get the fastball VLO up, but all in all, I'm going to say it every time he starts, I feel like.
I've liked the progression we've seen out of Bubba Chandler.
I want to talk about the velocity here a little bit also, too, because he was holding it back on them.
Yeah.
Trying to go a little.
he dug, it was like the fourth inning.
He pumped 1-0, was it 1-0-1-0-2?
What did he max out at?
Oh, I guess he maxed at 9-9-7.
So I guess it was 100.
But maybe that was Mason I was thinking of.
I don't know.
Anyways, his velocity, like, it went, it crept up every inning.
96.7 the first, 97.5 the second, 97.6 the third, 98.6 the fourth, and 97.8 the fifth.
But yeah, like that fourth inning, he was just unleashing a little bit there.
Sure was.
Like I said, it was a little weirdly like a throwback at old Verlander, where he'd just ramp up throughout the game and become his own closer.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Graphic card tomorrow.
Tyler Sweeney says, Bubba Chandler, just like Justin Verlander.
Yeah, except I don't like the idea of doing that.
I'd rather him just throw gas and do what he does.
But, hey, he was effective enough.
He got through it.
Like, he pitched well.
He didn't just throw well.
He pitched well.
The curveball looked good.
Fastball looked good.
Change up.
He threw a few times.
Looked good.
Yeah, the whiffs weren't really there today, but.
But oddly enough, like, it just seems almost every start that he pitches in, that he performs well in, that's the nature of the show.
It wasn't a whole lot of whiffs, but he actually still ends up getting strikeouts and pitches effectively, where unlike the early on this season, there was a lot of whiffs, but it was five earned in five innings.
But that's something that when we talk about Paul Skenes, like, sure, he does a good job of getting guys in two strike counts.
He's struggling to put them away.
Bubba didn't have the whiffs today, but he still was able to put them away with two strikes.
You don't have the swing and miss there, like the raw numbers of swing and miss, but still it's strikeouts because with two strikes, he was able to sit their ass down.
He had his first three ball count in the fifth inning, of course, when he gave the walk up.
So, again, to talk about Bubba getting ahead of the hitters all day long, essentially, the guy was throwing strikes.
He's doing what he needs to do to do to be effective, and that's what he did today.
So, again, like, just this team is going to need this type of a Bubba for them to perform.
Tomorrow, we can see if Jared can continue this.
Yeah, that's one that needs to bounce back here.
Yeah.
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I always want to see more Doug.
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That's a toughie.
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And Sonny Gray's been one of those roadblocks.
You've got to find a way to get it done tomorrow.
Got to.
Hey, if you can do it against a 25-year-old rookie who's a left-handed pitcher, this team can do it against anybody.
They could.
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Comments· 1
Should the Pirates bring Oneil Cruz back now for the playoff push, or let him finish a full rehab stint first?