◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
◆NEWSPirates Notes: Keller, Pitching Pursuits, Lineup◆ROSTERSigned free agent RHP Enmanuel Nunez to a minor league contract◆STATPaul Skenes ranks 4th in the NL in strikeouts (200)◆STATNick Gonzales ranks 4th in the NL in batting average (.303)
Ever since Doug asked to play the Brewers every day after Monday’s victory, the Pirates have gone 0-2 against Milwaukee. Tonight was another game where it never felt like the Bucs were ever close to winning. After the Brewers blooped their way to 3 runs off Paul Skenes in the 4th, the game felt over immediately. The Pirates couldn’t muster up any offense against yet another left handed pitcher, and they go quietly into that good night 4-2. Watch Dinardo and I break the game down here:
Paul Skenes Isn’t At Fault, But We Need Him to Be a Star
Paul Skenes was not very efficient tonight, throwing a mere 53 strikes on 93 pitches. He walked 4 batters, which ultimately became his downfall tonight as he continues to be the unluckiest pitcher in baseball. He only surrendered 2 hits, one of which was a broken bat single that scored 2 runs. Paul did not pitch badly enough to warrant a loss or to even give up 3 earned runs. However, the Pirates need Paul to be more than good and unlucky. The Pirates need Paul to be the Cy Young level pitcher that he has been in his first 2 seasons in the majors. With the offense slowing down and the rotation heading towards uncertainty without Mitch Keller, Skenes has to be the stopper that wills the team to wins with his heroics. It is not entirely his fault, as the defense behind him continues to make his numbers look worse than they actually are. With that said, anyone with eyes can tell that this simply isn’t good enough and even worse to happen during the team’s worst skid of the season. He is not the main culprit but he is a major reason as to why the Pirates are 3-12 in Skenes’ last 15 starts.
Ben Cherington’s Lack of Urgency Will Cost Him His Job
The Pirates entered tonight with the 26th best wRC+ against left-handed pitching and promptly got shut out by Kyle Harrison over 5 innings. Harrison even managed to strikeout 8 Pirates batters in a row on his way to 10 on the night. Ben Cherington saw a glaring weakness on the team and decided to not address the problem at the deadline. Despite players like Jo Adell, Taylor Ward, and others going for pennies on the dollar, Cherington baulked at the prices. He instead added 4 relievers. left-handed bat to plug the holes, and the Pirates continue to suffer for it. Even if the team manages to rally and make the playoffs, they are going to get shut down completely as long as the opposing team employs enough left-handed arms. When the team limps to 80-82 and finishes 6 games out of a playoff spot, Cherington should rightly be shown the door for his incompetence. He had the chance to fix things and decided that Ronny Simon would work well enough. A lack of urgency will best describe the 7 years of our lives that Cherington has wasted running our beloved team into the ground.
Pirates Might Already Be Out of the Race
The Pirates will fall to 4.5 games out of a wild card spot after tonight, and are behind 2 teams who sold at the deadline (Cardinals and Marlins). It is going to take a Herculean effort to get themselves out of this hole, especially since they have refused to go on any extended winning streaks this season. The team has never been able to put together a stretch of games where every single part is firing on all cylinders. If they want to catch the Diamondbacks and Padres, there needs to be changes and soon or else they will end up playing meaningless September games yet again.
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The Debate
Is Paul Skenes' 4.00 ERA mostly the defense's fault, not his?
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With Neil Lucas and Anthony DiNardo.
Chapters
Key takeaways
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The deadline was a failure because Ben Cherington didn't add a bat that hits lefties. Hitters like Taylor Ward and Jo Adell went for next to nothing, and the Pirates are now 26th in wRC+ vs. lefties. One host says it sums up the Cherington era's 'complete lack of urgency.'
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Paul Skenes isn't why they lost: the Brewers got only 2 hits off him in 5 innings, one a broken-bat single, and the Pirates had 3 hits all night. One host argues that with how he's pitched, he should have a sub-3.00 ERA instead of 4.00.
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The counterpoint: early in the year Skenes' problems were 95% defense, but now it's closer to 50/50. His walks, home runs and hits are up, and 53 strikes on 93 pitches isn't good enough for an ace.
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The Pirates shouldn't need 22-year-old rookie Esmerlyn Valdez to carry the offense. He's now challenging pitches that are clear strikes and needs a day or two off.
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Ben Cherington should never be a buyer at the deadline. The Pirates are now level with sellers like the Cardinals and only half a game ahead of the Reds.
Yo. Welcome to the North Shore Nine podcast presented by FanDuel. This is the NS9 postgame show powered by Primanti Brothers. I'm your host, Anthony DiNardo. With me, we have Neil. And Neil, the Pirates have now dropped two out of three in Milwaukee. The House of Horrors is back.
Yeah, this is all Doug's fault. He's the one who said he wanted to play the Brewers every day. He said it on Monday. It's all his fault.
But yeah, no, this has been horrible. This game is a problem. And the reason I say that is I feel like this game in particular showcased every issue that the Pirates currently hold and what's really preventing them back.
And with Tyler, Jim and myself, we all basically, I think, scored on the same, like giving the trade deadline a B minus. And it's anything I say tonight, understand all the blame doesn't go in that person or that entity. All of them have a part of this.
But you have another left handed pitcher up there. And this offense was completely silent. They could not do a thing against him.
Yes, 22 innings, Kyle Harrison, I think. Maybe a little less. Kyle Harrison's pitched against the Pirates this year. Not a single run's been scored, I think I saw. Just insane dominance over the few times we've seen.
And again, the left handed issues keep coming back up and it's just going to keep getting, I guess, keep going back to the returns that those left handed pitching mashers got at the deadline and they were nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing. Like, I don't like Jo Adell, but like Jo Adell went for nothing. Taylor Ward went for nothing.
Like, it was, there's so many things attainable that they could have done to try to fix this, even in the short term.
And Ben didn't do it. And now we're suffering.
Right.
100% agree. That's what made the deadline disappointing is because you assumed they were going to pick up another bat, especially when that could hit lefties in a right handed hitter, most likely, especially with Ryan O'Hearn going down.
Like, that's what I mentioned. It's like, not that you want to see Ryan O'Hearn and go down by any means, but the fact that he went down almost felt like now, Ben has to look and say, okay, I have to get a bat.
without the O'Hearn injury, you could maybe envision that Ben's thinking the offense is fine.
Let's go ahead and get the relievers, which they did.
But with O'Hearn down, you felt like, okay, like they have to get a bat at this point in time.
Right. And they didn't. And immediately it shows right now, not that one batter was going to fix anything again, but it's, it helps that's this team needs someone who can hit lefties because they just simply cannot.
They came into this game 26th in baseball with a 90 way to run credit plus verse lefties.
And they had Cal Harrison make that completely worse after today.
He struck out six, I'm sorry, eight straight pirates tonight, eight straight plate appearances.
The pirates went up and they got sent back to the bench striking out like just completely embarrassing.
It's insane.
Like, I don't know how anyone could have watched his team in July in early June and seen how they did against left-handed pitching, especially with all the injuries and not added.
To it.
And we keep seeing it over and over and over again, like tonight.
Kyle Harrison, I guess, luckily he got hurt for us, I guess.
But like, it could have been much worse.
Like, it's insane how it shouldn't be possible to be this bad against left-handed pitching when you scored as many runs as this team has.
I don't, it doesn't compute in my head how we can be this bad.
Right.
Kyle Harrison goes out there five innings, one hit, one walk, 10 strikeouts.
I'm not saying he's a bad pitcher by no means.
Is he a bad pitcher?
Like he should put up good stat lines.
He's a good pitcher.
But again, he made this lineup look completely pathetic.
And we keep talking about how this lineup and this offense is one of the better in baseball.
Now it has not been since the also break.
That is a problem of itself.
But also since the also break, they faced a lot of lefties.
So again, that's why it's being so exposed at this point in time tonight.
Another lefty comes on the mound and you're right.
He was going out there four or six.
They said he's probably going to throw about 75 pitches.
He ends at 69.
He was warming up for a sixth inning.
He gets pulled out, takes himself out because of, the trainer, went out with him.
I'm not sure what the injury really is or whatnot, but that would have been the time to capitalize.
the Pirates do hit a two run home run with Endy Rodríguez.
They cut the deficit in half.
That's all they did.
But, and again, that's just one part of tonight, but it's just, it's frustrating because it comes immediately after this trade deadline where they did absolutely nothing to address this particular problem that is on the team.
like I legitimately did not know any of the names given up for Taylor Ward.
And I consider myself a prospect guy in terms of like no one around, like around, like no clue who any of those guys are.
and I'm saying Taylor Ward wins us the game tonight, but I think it is a good summary of like the Cherington era.
There's a complete lack of urgency and a complete lack and an inability to fix your most pressing problems at any given point, because this offense is the reason why we're in this line.
I'm sure we're going to get to talk about Paul skiing tonight.
Oh yeah.
But like the reason that the pirates are now out of a playoff race, almost like we're four games back is because the offense has come to a screeching halt.
The bullpen has been good.
The starting pitching has been fine.
We just can't score runs and especially against lefties.
We want to talk about Kyle Harrison, 10 strikeouts on 70 pitches.
It's not like he was making us work.
We weren't even making them work for the strikeouts either.
It was, it was pathetic.
No, absolutely not.
Yep.
I don't want to add to that again.
Like the offense was pathetic versus the lefty, which is exactly what they've been all year.
This is going to be an ongoing problem.
The one thing you have maybe to look forward to is the fact that, oh, no, Cruz was hitting lefties.
He is supposed to be coming back.
But then again, you got the news.
Also today Ben Cherington said that there still isn't a timetable.
We're still not sure.
I don't know how to take that truly.
they don't really show their cards too often.
Anyways.
I don't know if it's just, there's a little hiccup here or this is like, we should be really worried about this because it was just told that he's resuming baseball activities.
He's able to do so.
We'll be at rehab games.
And now we just heard we don't know.
So that was like the one saving grace of this offense versus lefties.
And now we just, we don't know.
Yeah.
Griffin was good against lefties too.
I think he had like a 110 WRC plus against lefties before he went down.
But no, I think it just comes down to the fact that even the guys who were switch hitters or the righties in this lineup just aren't producing like Nick Gonzales.
But also this team should not be dependent on Esmerlyn Valdez and Valdez to fix their problems.
Like, I'm sorry.
That's an insane thing.
Like we can't, we can't put it on this rookie who went on a crazy tear.
I'm not surprised.
You're absolutely correct.
You're absolutely correct.
But also like his calling card was he can match lefties and he has gone in a hot streak.
And, even today it was versatile lefty.
And again, I understand it was a good lefty, but he has, he has struggled.
Like, the one thing he's still walking, he's providing some value even during his struggles, but he's also just not swinging the bat.
I know he's very patient here to begin with, which is also like a positive.
again, like that one of the things that makes him good is because of these things here.
So it's like, I don't want him to totally abandon what has made him successful to this point.
But I want to see him maybe start getting a little more aggressive because he's watching way too many pitches go into the strike zone.
And the other thing too, is like, he's had a very good eye on the strike zone and identifying what is a strike or not.
And lately that doesn't seem to be the case either because he's challenging the pitches that are clear strikes.
like the full baseball is within the strike zone and he's challenging it because he thinks it's a ball.
Like that's been a complete one 80 of the Esmerlyn Valdez that we saw when he is successful.
So he's just not seeing the ball well at all.
I don't know if it's, a day off situation, but again, this team has played a lot of games already, but they had a 17 game streak that had to play straight.
This team needs a day off, I think in general, but Esmerlyn Valdez, I think for sure.
Like he needs maybe a day or two to step away from this game.
Yeah.
it is crazy that they gave us back to back four game series on the road.
Like that.
I think that's crazy.
But yeah, no, definitely give him a day off.
But I think it's a natural thing when rookies come up and have hot streaks like pitchers.
They're going to find out what's your bad, but what's your, what's your weaknesses are.
They're going to, and he has to adjust to that.
And I think we're just going through that adjustment period.
Like if he's for real, he will make his adjustments.
But clearly they have found something opposing pitchers have, and other teams have found what he's bad at, maybe taking advantage of the fact that he watches so many pitches and are, and are getting them out.
Cause of that, and it's up to the coaching staff to help them out, but I'm not, I can't say I'm terribly worried, but this did come at a pretty bad time.
And again, like, I can't be worried.
there's struggles.
That's, it's a rookie.
Like you're, these guys are going to go through these.
This is part of the development.
You're going to develop at the major league level still.
But you mentioned the timing.
And again, like the thing, the point is too, is like this team can't just rely on a 22 year old rookie.
The rest of the guys need to come together as well.
I do want to get to some supers here.
We got a quite a few here.
so of course, you know what it is.
Michael B you guys have started us off.
Thanks for the $5 super.
Will you two finally realize the season is over?
This team looks more like a basement dweller rather than a wildcard team.
They won't win 80 games.
Jack shout out to the two or super no comment there, but appreciate it.
we got a $5 from fishing with rainy.
I still believe this team can make the playoffs must win tomorrow and get the bats hot for the Mets series.
We got 440 jewels from Brock says uncle once again, steel city, DW 10 jewels.
Of course, happy poop.
Another $5 from Michael B.
I'm going to keep mentioning this.
I am shocked that Bill Murphy is still their pitching coach.
Their Cy Young winner stinks.
Murphy is responsible.
Guardian pretty.
Thanks for the $5.
How much money did the home plate ump put on Kyle Harrison?
That strike zone of his was atrocious pirates, not challenging.
Half of those.
It was nauseating.
I will say this.
And again, this isn't to absolve their issues.
They were bad today at the plate, but that strike zone was pretty bad today.
I felt like they could have challenged, but they only had one left Esmerlyn Valdez blew that one early and they're probably just, saving it, but they're wrong.
Maybe after Ozuna was gone, they had like a team talk about blowing through, going through the challenges so early.
And still city.
Thanks for the 10 jewels also.
yeah, I don't know, man.
Like I said, the offense was bad.
Everyone individually was very bad.
I think we talked about most of them being very bad.
And then another $2 from Justin says, can they please get Austin Hayes?
Now that is something that's maybe something for an NS nine live tomorrow night.
but yeah, that's a topic for sure.
All right.
Paul Skenes for pitch leadoff walk to start the game.
You just knew it was going to get ugly, but then it didn't.
He finished three innings.
He didn't allow any other base runners on.
It was very shaky.
Like I'll say this.
He was not clean at all.
He lacked command the entire game, but the first three, he was at least being effective.
And then it all fell apart.
Yeah.
I understand the frustration and I don't think he was like fantastic tonight.
No, but like he gave up two hits and one of them was a broken bat single that happened to score two.
Like it's, you need, he hasn't been the stopper that I think we really needed.
Like he hasn't put up a game where like the other team just isn't scoring.
But I think if you watch this game, like, I don't know, like the Brewers couldn't really touch him.
And it came from like a, an error that got a runner to the third base and then a broken bat single.
And that was the only thing the Brewers could really put together against him.
And it happened to result in three runs.
Like my counter, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
That's all.
No, I was going to say, but my counter is, and yes, like you got babed a little bit there.
the first hit in that inning was a ladder down first man.
that was a solid, I think that was Yelich.
If I'm, if I remember correctly, was that Yelich?
I think that was Yelich who hit the single right down the first baseline.
He, the double, he, the double, that got the first run in.
Right.
So he hits that again.
It was a hard hit.
The next hit was like you mentioned the broken bat.
That was more of the babe of gods on the, on the Brewer side.
Right.
But you don't score all of those runs.
If you don't put back to back guys via walks.
again, like he walked the first batter.
The command was off all game, but it wasn't, he didn't walk anyone after that until the fourth inning.
And he walked three guys that inning.
he walks out of here at five.
I'm sorry.
With a four.
Yeah.
Five innings pitched with the four walks, one in the first, the leadoff batter and four pitches.
And then he had three walks in the fourth inning.
So sure.
That hit wasn't something that like, oh, they got onto Paul Skenes and they're hitting him right or left, but he was putting guys on.
When you put guys on at that rate, bad things tend to happen.
Paul Skenes was, I, he was just not good tonight and he was getting by because he's Paul Skenes, but the fourth inning it all unraveled.
Yeah.
I just, I don't know.
I feel like it's a, I feel like Paul Skenes has gotten absolutely zero breaks this entire season and I think his left on base percentage is like just an indicator of that.
Like, I don't know, like where there are a lot of walks.
Yes.
Do I think he should have held three runs tonight?
Not a chance.
Like again, two hits through five innings.
And yes, he should have been more effective.
53 strikes and 93 pitches is not good enough for someone of Paul Skenes is caliber.
And frankly, when, and I'll say this, like when you're in a slump like this, like the pirates are, you need your race to come out and be your race.
Right.
But I don't think Paul Skenes is the reason they lose tonight.
Even if he hasn't been like, he wasn't the guy that the pirates needed.
Like the reason they lost tonight is because they had three hits.
He's not the reason they lost.
He's part of it, but he's not, he's never, I shouldn't say never, but it's been a long time since he's been the reason they've won.
Like that's the difference.
No, I think that's entirely fair.
And I think like, he clearly has not been the same pitcher.
And it's, I think clearly like him choosing not to throw as hard as a decision.
Cause I think he told us it was a decision that he made makes his off speed stuff a lot less, a lot less something to be respected.
Like the velocity differences is really hurting them there.
I just, I really feel like this defense that can never pick him up though.
And, like I would say that I feel pretty confident that in saying that Paul scheme should have a sub three ERA this year with just how he's pitched.
And instead he has a four ERA and this is just the worst time in the world to have substandard Paul Skenes while also unlucky Paul Skenes.
Yeah.
That's all fair.
And again, I feel like I'm the King of using this phrase of two things can be true.
Right.
Cause I know in this day and age, we always love to say one thing or another, you're either this or that you can't be both, Paul Skenes, both things can be true.
He's had terrible defense behind him, but at the same time, he's been more and more ineffective.
I feel like as the season has gone on and like, I want to bring this up here and this is like, I'm alluding to like you talk about how the velocity is a problem because of the secondary stuff.
And I agree, but today wasn't really lost because they were hitting him.
that's not, that has been a bit of the MO.
And of course, when you're being hit and you have a bad defense behind you, that tends to lead to bad things, which is run scored.
That's really not what happened today.
What, this here was the problem.
And again, they're talking about on the, on the broadcast, but it was absolutely true.
So like arm side, he was, he had no command arm side, all these pitches.
the fastballs, the sweepers.
look, you're not throwing a sweeper up here.
This is not where the sweeper is supposed to go.
He just had no command over here.
And things were just always sailing this way.
And like I mentioned earlier on through innings one, well, inning 1.1 and forward, he was getting by with it because like the stuff was looking good when he was able to command it.
he had some sweepers that looked absolutely filthy when they're down here, these ones looked filthy, but when he wasn't on, which was often you got this and that led to
a lot of three ball counts today.
And again, the brewers, you could say they bailed them out.
Some, you could say, Paul, whatever is a combination of things were just going right for the first three innings for him, but that just wasn't going to hold up.
And it didn't.
And the fourth inning came and he walked the four guys.
And the brewers are good.
They're a good baseball team.
They're one of the best in baseball and they're good for this reason.
They don't let you capitalize when you make mistakes.
The fourth inning, they got to them.
They're able to win the game.
Yeah.
No, it's fair.
And I don't really think command's been too much of an issue for schemes.
I think he's tried a lot of like leaving stuff out of like trying to get more people to chase, but clearly I don't even think like walks have been that big of an issue for him this year.
I think tonight was a rarity in that regard.
I think one of the bigger issues of people on the schemes that he hasn't been able to put people away efficiently where he wastes a lot of pitches, gets people to foul stuff off.
I think tonight was an anomaly in terms of like Paul Skenes issues.
But it's not good enough.
It's not good enough.
And I also think that he's been pitching better than like what people have been saying.
He's been pitching like, I agree with what you're saying.
I agree with it more earlier on in the year.
I do think again, like as the season has progressed, it hasn't been as good as it was early on where earlier on, I think it really was like just the defense, like 95% of the problem
The, he didn't look the same because the velocity was down, but the results, the batted balls were basically the same, right?
The batting average, basically the same.
The strikeout rate, basically the same.
The walk rate, the same.
Like all this stuff was the same.
Like the results of the balls were the same.
It's just the defense behind him was failing him.
Now the walks are up.
The home runs are definitely up.
the hits are up.
So all this is now leveling out.
And that's why there's certainly some worry about Paul Skenes.
He's just not giving the same results.
And that's certainly a problem when you have a team that has Mitch Keller, that's out, who is pitching terribly.
Braxton hasn't been as sharp of recent.
Bubba is a mixed bag.
Jared Jones has been good, but then now reenter karma.
Mlodzinski probably in the rotation.
And this rotation is, has question marks.
The bullpen has shored up.
Although tonight, we'll talk about that for a second here as well.
It's the new revamped bullpen.
Lake, backer comes in and home run, home run, right?
Yeah.
That's what we all wanted to see, right?
Just like the ball when he first comes in home run.
Classic Pirates debut.
and also like, Paul has to have, has to be a star right now to help will the Pirates to make the playoffs.
And he hasn't been that.
And in that, in that sense, it's inexcusable because you need your best players to step up.
I just disagree with a lot of like the narratives around him.
I've seen, but no, it's not good enough.
And the, Paul Skenes last year go seven shutout, I think tonight.
And he didn't do that today.
Yeah.
Right.
another shout out to Sean Hooper for the $5 super remind me why the Pirates thought it was a good idea to fix what was not broken.
Doesn't dissolve the offense lately, but pitching has been so bad.
Has been bad.
Everything's been bad.
Everything's been bad.
Only Sheraton gets fired at the end of the year for this.
That's my, that's my one, shining light.
I'm trying to think, cause like the thing is, there's always been things that are bad, but like one thing has always been good.
At this point, I'm trying to find the one thing that has been good.
It's not defense.
It's not the bullpen.
It's not the starting pitching.
It's not really the offense.
No, everyone has gone through cold streaks and there's never been a point in time where this team has had it all together.
I think that's just going to be the theme of this year's Pirates team.
There's a lot of talent and they could never ever put it all together.
It's like those things where you can choose two or three things, but you can never have the third one.
And what is that called?
By the way, I keep talking about that too.
I don't know the name of it though.
I don't, I don't know what it's called, but that's all I could think about how like the slider like goes off whenever you, that's the 2026 Pittsburgh Pirates.
It's like the biggest like Instagram trap advertisement for like some game on, the app store too.
It's like, but I don't know what they are, but they're popular.
You guys know what we're talking about.
Anyways, I don't know.
I don't, I don't have much more for this game.
I don't think it was just, it was just bad.
And again, it's every concern you have for the Pittsburgh Pirates came to fruition tonight.
This is why you can't be too confident about this team.
I'm not saying they don't have the talent.
I'm not saying they can't make the playoffs.
Like don't put those words in my mouth.
Also don't put the words in my mouth that I think this is a playoff team.
They have talent and abilities to get into the playoffs.
They need to start making some runs to do so, but things like tonight are also the reasons why if they miss the playoffs, this is why they're going to miss it and not shoring up
these other things outside of the bullpen at the trade deadline is going to hurt.
Yeah.
I'm, and it's just, it's just a consistent talking point, but I just keep going back to April and May and June where we just had so many games that we threw away from winning positions that were very easily winnable because in a vacuum teams,
brewers go through a streak with the pirates are doing post deadline.
The Yankees do the Dodgers do the Cubs do all the, every good team has a six and 11 stretch like the pirates are doing right now in a row.
Haven't they?
What?
Haven't the Dodgers lost six in a row?
I believe it.
If it's true, like I don't believe it.
yeah, they have, they're two, like they're two and eight in their last two and eight.
So again, to your point.
Yeah.
The point being is that this is okay.
If, because every team goes through a cold streak, the offense was bound to go through a cold streak, but you did not afford yourself the ability to do this.
Cause now you're going to be sending four and a half games out after tonight.
Cause the diamondbacks are at four, nothing.
And you have really got your work cut out with you with this upcoming stretchy games is all I'll say yeah, that's it.
You're actually right now currently tied with the Cardinals.
Like, you're now with, and under two sellers at the deadline.
That's the perspective.
Like you're who are a seller and right.
That game's not over yet.
And you're currently under the Marlins who were, they stood paddish, but they sold Liam Hicks, one of their better offensive players.
So like you can just sell it too.
That's where you're at right now.
It's not an insurmountable hole that you can't dig yourself out of.
Like it is just four games in this NL central and NL central, this whole national league wild card is a tight race and things can go any which way, depending on the wind blows right that week.
But you are very much on the outside looking in.
And before this game started, your odds for the playoffs was 19.4%.
And that was before today's loss.
So it's getting worse and worse and worse by the day.
We're going to be tied with the reds after tonight.
Wonderful.
So another seller or maybe after tomorrow, but yeah, it's, we are, yeah, we're going to be a half game above the reds right now as buyers.
Ben Cherington just should never buy ever because this is what happens.
So they need tomorrow's game badly.
So they need tomorrow's game badly.
If they can split this series with Milwaukee in Milwaukee, all things aren't lost, nothing gained.
That's the problem, but all things aren't truly lost.
Like the first half of the season, he was the stopper when you needed schemes, you weren't getting schemes, but Ashcraft was consistently stepping up.
He's been a mixed bag of recent, but he does take the mound tomorrow.
This team needs a stopper.
According to FanDuel, they are plus one 16 tomorrow.
So they're not really buying this for the pirate's sake either.
but Hey, the Milwaukee brewers, they're pitching who Dustin may.
Yeah.
you have to go in three games under would just, it would be unacceptable.
I think now the pirates are, if this is their first loss, wouldn't be one game under 500 all season, I think.
so they're no longer invincible once they drop under 500.
Right.
Not anymore.
That ship is also selling.
but just to put this out there, yeah, like Dustin may hasn't been a fantastic pitcher.
He's been, he's been fine-ish.
there was talks that there were the brewers were in on Skubal, they wanted him and that was going to be like a, Oh, moment they go and get Dustin main.
It's like, all right.
that's fine.
I don't fear Dustin may.
He's going to pitch tomorrow.
Just remember this, the pirates faced him on May 21st, lasted 5.1 innings, gave up four earned runs.
Hopefully get more of that tomorrow and a good Ashcraft start.
Yeah.
And a good bullpen and a good, a good, defense and if ND starting tomorrow, maybe some good throws down to second also, because all of his tonight were terrible.
Yeah.
You're not wrong.
yeah, they just need to win in the worst way.
Yeah.
And then you got the Mets coming to the town who are terrible.
Like that is a good, that would be a good springboard, especially if they win tomorrow.
Right.
All right.
Well, let's call it a night.
How's that?
We'll turn it over for tomorrow's team.
I feel like it's probably what Cody and Doug, maybe tomorrow.
Sounds about right.
Yeah.
God bless them.
Good luck guys.
Our time is done.
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Bye-bye.
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