Pittsburgh Pirates Trade Deadline LIVE: Luke Weaver, Kirby Yates in Deadline Bullpen Overhaul

Yo. Welcome to the NS9 Trade Deadline Show. I'm your host, Anthony DiNardo. This is the NS9 Podcast presented by FanDuel. And with me is Tyler and Jim. And guys, the Pirates have just got Luke Weaver. I don't know what to do with myself. This is the problem. I can't contain. This show is way different than last show.

I don't know what to do. For now. For now. Yeah. it's been a crazy day, right? Like the trade deadline. I can't recall a trade deadline where there was just this many moves throughout the entire day. It's been a crazy, hectic day all day long. And it took until right around 3 p.m. or so. But the Pirates finally made their first move. And it was a big one.

they landed the number one reliever available, assuming that Mason Miller is not. So, yeah. Great job to land Luke Weaver. And we'll get into that trade here in a minute. But they got to do more. Still got to do more. Everybody else is adding. So the Pirates need to do the same, too. But they've got 27 minutes left to do it.

Yeah. The Nardo mentioned that it's been a well, both of you mentioned it's been a day of a lot of action. Unfortunately, a lot of action has come from the Chicago Cubs as well.

And my God, they have. They've gotten better today. Well, and the Guardians. Guardians have been on some stuff, too. And they just got Foster Griffin.

Yeah. Foster Griffin to the Guardians right now, who was on the PowerPoint as a starting pitcher option for the Pirates. But yeah, we mentioned when we were going through the bullpen options, like we needed a tier A guy.

Like if we get an A tier guy, a B tier guy and a C tier guy, then that should be good for the bullpen. So far, they've got an A tier and a C tier. So we still we still are missing one more that I'd like to go out and get.

And then we were we were wanting a bat and we were wanting a starter. So there's still a few needs that this team has. But options are dwindling. That's for sure. And like you all mentioned, like the Brewers have been active.

The Cubs have been active. The Padres have been active. The Diamondbacks haven't really been all that active. So you can look at that as a team that you're going up against.

Marlins haven't had they done. to cut you off here, have the Diamondbacks done anything? I don't recall.

Yeah, I don't I don't know if I don't know if the Diamondbacks have done much.

That's shocking to me. I don't think they've done anything to think of.

So and then the Cardinals have sold off. Right. And they're right in line with where you're at.

But yeah, real quick, do we let's as we're doing this, let's discuss this Luke Weaver trade.

I think he was I know I know he was my number one target this entire time.

And when it comes to when it comes to Luke Weaver, they receive him and cash from the Mets.

Essentially, the Mets are paying him down to the league minimum this year.

So roughly two point one million dollars from the Mets this year and then six million dollars from the Mets next year, which makes him an extremely affordable option on next year's team.

It cost the Pirates Sammy Stafora, who we just did a Bucs On Deck on him two weeks ago, mentioned how he could be a perfect trade candidate for this deadline.

He's been just destroying the ball in Greensboro the last two months.

They traded Ke'Bryan Hayes or Stafora last year.

So you can look at this as you traded Ke'Bryan Hayes for Luke Weaver and eight million dollars essentially.

So pretty good flip, if you ask me, Luke Weaver, just to, we'll get to your super chat here in a minute, Michael B.

But just to shout out how good Luke Weaver is.

He's two in one with a one point eight four earned run average this year and 44 innings, 45 strikeouts, a one sixty two batting average against a point eight to whip.

He also has the second lowest road ERA in all of Major League Baseball, 0.40.

He's only given up one earned run in his last 30 appearances.

So since May 1st, he has a 0.28 earned run average.

You may remember him from his days with the St. Louis Cardinals.

He was a first round pick for them in 2014.

The other thing, too, is just, the consistency here over the last three seasons.

He has a two point nine zero earned run average.

That's the fifth lowest mark among all Major League relievers during that time frame.

And he also has postseason experience.

He's got a one point seven five ERA across 12 postseason experiences with the Yankees in 2024.

Also made three postseason appearances with the Yankees in 2025.

So, like, he's battle tested.

He's been on good teams and he's been really good for a few years now.

Just an outstanding acquisition.

he's the guy that you needed.

You said he was the number one pick for at least options available, like by far, I think, with Mason Miller off the board.

Very impressed that Sammy Stafford is the only thing they had to give up for him.

Very impressed by that.

And I got to tip my hat to Ben Cherington on that.

And plus being able to get money back on that.

We don't know the financial situation with the Pirates right now and what's available for him to spend.

But that was definitely a concern coming into this deadline is how much capital do they have available?

And being able to shed this thing down, have him for really cheap next year.

Like, it opens up a lot of options with 22 minutes left in the deadline.

I really need to have a season next year because.

Right.

Like, that's what's that's what's nice about this is you have them for next year and they're paying them down.

So, like, you're going to next year already thinking, like, oh, there's a legit closer.

that's probably the closer.

But if anything, like a legit reliever that you have for pretty cheap.

That's nice.

But what I do think about this is was Bob Nightingale, like on the money when he said that they this team's not going to operate unless they don't really add payroll.

Like, the Doval trade happened.

Yankees kicked in cash.

This trade happened.

The Mets kicked in cash.

again, kudos.

Like, I'll say this.

And again, it's kudos to Ben Cherington that he did this deal and got them the kick in cash for Sammy Stafiara.

Like, Sammy is a very interesting prospect.

And that's I think I said that on the show when we talked about like I'm interested in him.

There's no one outside the top 10 that I'm not dealing, but he's very interesting.

I want to see his career develop and what he becomes, because this year was it's something they're worried about the strikeout rate.

We're about the contact rate a bit, but he's just hitting the shit out of the baseball.

So the Mets have something.

But it's like that's all you needed to give up for Weaver.

And you got cash.

Honestly, Ben cooked.

Yeah, I am really surprised that this deal got done the way that it did because the Mets didn't have to trade Luke Weaver.

They could have just held on to him.

It's not like the Mets need to shed payroll or anything like that.

It's not like they could just be like, yeah, if we don't get what we want, we're just going to keep them.

Apparently, the Mets really like Sammy Stafiara, who, like I said, shout out to Sammy Stafiara for what he's done this year to turn himself into the type of prospect that can net you a return like this.

Outstanding job by him.

we've had we've had him on the show before.

So, he best of luck to Stafiara in New York, because I was not expecting a return like this for Luke Weaver.

I was thinking it was going to cost quite a bit more than this.

we were hearing, like Murf Gray plus stuff and that was without cash.

And so, yeah.

Shout out Sammy Stafiara, man.

Like.

Great work this year to turn and turn yourself into a dude who can who can pull this off.

And yeah, good job by Ben.

I know we were really obviously I think we still should have done something earlier.

I would have loved for Bennett to have done something earlier, but he landed he landed the number one target, which was which was Luke Weaver.

And I hope he's not done.

Obviously, they need to do more.

There's 19 minutes left.

They still need to do more.

This isn't enough.

So, yeah, we're here to talk about what else is going to happen here.

But you've got to be really happy with the Luke Weaver trade.

He was he was the number one guy available to you and you got him.

Problem now, fellas, is that the remaining options of what the Pirates need and we're talking about a lefty masher, right handed bat, possibly a starting pitcher, probably.

Some more bullpen help.

Those options are really dwindling.

Not especially on that right handed hitter mark with Tyrone Taylor being dealt as well.

There's.

everyone on that list is gone now, right?

From our show.

So on the list that I had, it was Jo Adell, Tyrone Taylor Ward, Lane Thomas were for four guys.

They're all gone.

There's Ty France in there, too.

But Padres, I don't know if the Padres are going to be selling.

And then Eastory Ruiz was another option in there, too, from Miami.

And Miami's stood pat so far.

They haven't really they trade off.

But they did.

Well, they did trade.

They trade hit traded Hicks, but they haven't really done some mass sell off or anything like that.

No.

The name that's hot right now that's been bounced around.

We talked him out of a little bit this morning on Bucco Brew.

He's been the comments here like and if you really want to shoot high for a lefty masher and it's going to cost you.

But, there's Hunter Goodman from Colorado is out there.

That would be a.

that would be the that would be the deal, right?

That would be.

Hunter Goodman would probably be the best offensive player traded in this deadline if the Pirates were to land him.

So, yeah, that would be impressive.

But, yeah, 17 minutes.

We got 17 minutes to go.

And, yeah, they better not be done.

They can't be done.

They can't.

And, I'm not here.

I'm not going to say confidence, but I'm going to assume they're not done either.

Like this is not bashing them like they can't be done.

How many deals come in after the deadline issue you hear about anyways?

That's why we started at 530 because we have all full intentions of being here to probably like 630 once we start hearing more stuff.

But I will say I'm nervous.

I was nervous all day because all these deals were happening.

And it was like all that's left is basically Weaver when you're looking at the type of relievers this team needs.

So they got him.

So I was like, you know what?

Okay.

If you were sitting on all day long to make this thing work, now I can understand why you're so quiet.

Good job, Ben.

But now there's still other things that need to be done.

And again, one of them being that hitter that can match some lefties and those seem to be escaping and leaving.

There's probably, I would love another bullpen arm still.

So I guess we'll find out.

I don't know.

Yeah.

And like I said, just to get to the super chat here, Michael, shout out.

Thanks for the $5.

Says, who cares if they got Weaver when Cherington hasn't done anything else?

Luke Weaver was needed two months ago.

Now he's one of many needs.

Yeah.

Like if they go out there and get Luke Weaver and then do nothing else, then what's the point of getting Luke Weaver, right?

They got to go out there and they got to do some other things.

I'm with you there, Michael B.

Yep.

Or else we're all here for nothing.

So, let's speculate, right?

When it comes to hitters, there's not like a whole lot out there left.

if you want to go out there and get Goodman and shoot for the stars, he's there.

That's going to cost you quite a bit.

You saw what Adley Rushman just went for.

Now, that seemed like a very huge overpay by Boston.

But, if you're Colorado and you're like, hey, Adley got that, maybe I should hold off for a little bit more.

that's an option for you there.

But you are going to have to pay up to land Hunter Goodman.

And as far as, like, pitchers out there available on the market still, there's not a whole lot.

Trevor Rogers from Baltimore still available from our PowerPoint on Thursday.

Like I said, Foster Griffin being gone now is, three out of the four guys that we highlighted on that slide are now gone.

So you're looking at Trevor Rogers as the lefty.

You're looking at Casey Mize if the Tigers decide to move on from anybody.

B-tier relievers, Kenley Jansen, Zephyr John's gone.

there's Andrew Kittredge from Baltimore.

So, I don't know, maybe you could swing something with Baltimore here.

They've got a couple, interesting pieces that could help you between Kittredge and Rogers.

Yeah, I said it's going to be it's going to be interesting because I can't imagine they're done.

I can, though, at least hitter wise, like what is left?

Like not hitters, not much.

There's not the problem.

I feel like, yeah, there's not a whole lot of like rentals left, right?

Especially if you're looking at guys who can hit lefties, not a lot.

Like everyone left seems to be more of a.

Like somebody that you're going to control for a while, right?

Like Zach Netto is a big name that's left.

Hunter Goodman, if the Marlins decide Otto Lopez, Xavier Edwards, Isaac Paredes, if the Astros decide to move them, is somebody.

Tenardo, can you zoom your camera out a little bit?

What's that jersey on the wall?

There's Luke.

There's Luis Robert.

There's, yeah, I guess Starling Marte is technically available.

As you can't figure it out.

Yeah, no, I think I have a different.

I'll just do the work.

I'll do the work right now.

The wide lens.

But anyways, yeah, Starling Marte, I guess.

Is that where we're going with?

Jorge Soler.

Jorge Soler is there too.

Like if you want to just, but he's just like an Ozuna upgrade maybe.

Yeah, it's going to, the position player piece is, interesting here.

It's going to be tough to improve that spot with what's available.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, what's, I haven't even, I didn't even really look at Soler as an option earlier because I know he's not having a great season.

85 weighted runs created plus and against lefties.

He's at 73.

So it's even worse.

So I wouldn't necessarily be too thrilled with that one.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Jeff.

Also, I don't know if we mentioned it.

Jeff Hoffman to the twins just now.

Also, our new bar to the demo backs.

Okay.

There is a move.

All right.

Oh, I haven't found that one yet.

The chat's blowing up with it.

Yeah.

Jorge Castillo has Diamondbacks requiring Lars Neupar from ESPN.

So yeah, Diamondbacks did some Josh Hartle Nationals received Josh Hartle.

Josh Hartle traded again.

Yeah.

Look at that.

And you look at, you look at a return like that.

So the Nationals sent.

So the Nationals are getting what?

Four players for Foster Griffin.

Only one of them being a top 30 pick.

Yeah.

Like you would have loved, I don't, I don't love Foster Griffin, but I would take Foster Griffin.

Right.

Yeah.

And if you only would have had to give up.

That to get them.

So, yeah, you're, I will say this.

I am, I am encouraged that the returns on these trades, especially the rentals haven't been high.

Like they haven't been high at all.

Like everyone's been pretty cheap so far.

I'm also frustrated that they have not been very high because there are a lot of guys that would have helped this team.

In addition to Luke Weaver.

Like if we're going to get nitpicky, there have been a handful of trades that have been made.

The Pirates should have been able to be in on and whether that's that the teams don't like the Pirates prospects from that range enough, or maybe they just like to deal better or the Pirates run in on it, whatever it is, they should have been able to make at least

one of those moves that have been made today.

Yeah.

I hear you like a hundred percent.

That's that like, that's the frustrating part of this.

The Pirates need for them to really compete this year.

Like they need a few pieces, like absolutely at least a few pieces.

We've gone and discussed all them to, a large extent here.

Weaver's just not going to be enough.

And when you're seeing the prices of these guys go, honestly, also too, like you're seeing the prices of some of the guys we didn't think they would go after because it might be too much.

When you see what they're costing, it's like, oh, maybe they should have just went out there and got like a really legit starter because like it didn't cost them too much to go and obtain that.

I don't know.

like this market's been weak in that sense.

You're seeing the prices of players going.

Yeah.

I guess if you, if you're looking for someone who maybe wouldn't have added any salary, cause it does seem like that's playing a part, right?

Like the Pirates haven't made a move yet really that has forced their payroll to be really any higher than it is right now.

So like you look at someone like Helio Ramos, from the giants where, he's still a pre-arb guy.

Actually, he may be, yeah, he's a pre-arb guy right now.

Is he still pre-arb?

Yeah.

Pre-arb.

So like, you look at a guy like that and you're like, maybe something like that would have made sense.

he's 127 weighted runs created plus versus lefties overall, a pretty average hitter.

the Yankees gave up their number five prospect for him.

so obviously costing more in terms of a prospect, but cheap.

but I'm, I am surprised they didn't go out there and figure out a way to make like that Taylor ward or a Tyrone Taylor trade work because yeah, like those guys were dealt

for not very much.

Yeah.

And put that all in lane Thomas and that makes the flow boys.

Yeah.

You can throw Wayne Thomas in there too.

Yep.

I think it's not good.

yeah, quick from Colin Beasley from Colin Beasley.

Brandon Eisert is in the clubhouse, on the taxi squad.

I'm assuming he's there just in case any major league relievers or pitchers get dealt.

I would assume Carmen's probably the one guy who could go, but don't do it.

Don't do it.

Don't do not trade Carmen, but either way, Brandon Eisert is in Milwaukee.

I want to get a couple of these into, $2 Silas.

How late after four, you must be in mountain time, but, six Eastern time.

Time can trades roll in.

The trade needs to be agreed upon by 6 PM.

Obviously we've seen in years past where it takes a while for the news to come out.

So, it could be a few minutes after before we hear something.

and then thank you to Michael B.

He says eight minutes left.

BC is doing nothing else.

Season is over.

Yeah.

I, again, I'm going to be surprised if there's nothing else here.

but yeah, seven minutes.

So we're.

We're rolling them right up to the deadline.

Usually do.

Also good point here by yellow beer.

So if you're a group of Mets fan, he's from the New York area.

He loves his bacon, egg, and cheeses, which apparently, and I'm calling you out.

Like you mean, I feel like it was like, Oh, you can only find those in New York, buddy.

They're everywhere, but you get to go back home and enjoy some bacon, egg, and cheeses.

He gets to go home and get his bacon, egg, and cheese.

Yep.

Yeah.

When he said that was funny.

I was just like, you mean the thing you can get everywhere?

It's a local cuisine in New York, the bacon, egg, and cheese.

Oh, sailing.

And it's nothing against him, but of all the guys they could have dealt, that's the one I'm very comfortable moving on from.

Well, you look at the position, right?

Like he's a shortstop.

He's going to, he's a guy who's going to stay there.

Like he plays really good defense.

Like I think the Mets, the Mets got an interesting prospect.

he, the power, I don't know how real it is.

It's probably a little bit real, not as real as his numbers are suggesting in Greensboro.

Cause we all know what Greensboro is.

like a Sammy stuff for going to be a 30 home run guy.

No, but he's far enough away from the majors.

He's far enough away from the majors.

The pirates are pretty deep at that position right now.

It made him expendable.

And that's one of the good things about having a pretty deep farm system is you can use guys like that to get what you need at the major league level.

So we got five more minutes.

Let's see what else we can do.

And if we're being honest, he's playing in a place where I'm pretty sure any of us could hit two 75, especially me.

And I'd probably get 20 bombs there as well in Greensboro.

That is, you think you'd hit 20 bombs in Greensboro?

Maybe 19.

Sure.

Sure.

Like I do just want to add though.

He is hitting this shit out of the baseball, like to his credit though, he's striking out a third of the time, but it will.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, that's the part that worries me.

It's, I'm not going to say power's real that he'll have 30 bombs, but I understand he's hitting in a favorable ballpark right now that it will allow more home runs than a typical person.

Right.

But the power does seem pretty legit.

Like he is hitting the ball very hard.

The issue is it's not making a whole lot of contact and he's striking out a ton too.

It's like, what does that translate?

How does he develop?

But again, this is also a kid who you thought he was here for the glove and that's it.

Really?

He was here because you just got rid of Cabron Hayes' contract.

like, honestly, it was almost like, Hey, what's it going to take for us to dump this contract?

What's the best prospect of, your guys that you'll give us?

They're like, ah, take Sammy.

They're like, okay, just take this contract.

And yeah, they're still intrigued.

He was, he's like, I think at the Reds top 10 prospect at the time or something like, he wasn't like just some Joe Schmo per se, but I felt like his calling card was certainly the glove.

Then he comes in this year and just, he's annihilated the baseball.

Like, so was it 14 home runs in the month?

14?

let's see.

Or 12?

I feel like it was 14.

Splits in the, in the last 30 days, he has 11 homers and the last 60 days he's got at the team.

Yeah.

Just, he is annihilating the baseball.

He's hitting it very well.

Yep.

Yep.

Nathaniel Lowe to the Cleveland guardians from the Cincinnati Reds.

Not really anybody who, the pirates were in on also the Marlins are getting Victor Vodnick from the Colorado Rockies.

Connor Norby's going back to the Rockies in that trade as well.

Oh, good.

along with Aiden May.

but Vodnick is a guy where insane stuff.

and there were a few Rockies relievers that I threw on that PowerPoint last week.

He was not one of them just because despite the really good stuff, he's just been, he's been really bad.

but again, he's in Colorado, so who knows, but he, you would think someone who throws 99 could strike people out, but he doesn't very much.

So, yeah, we'll see what happens there.

but Vodnick to the, to the Marlins.

So it is five 58.

We got two more minutes left.

anyone getting concerned yet?

I'm not concerned yet.

I'm not there yet.

I am.

They got to do something else.

Like they have to, they absolutely have to do something else.

There's, it would make no sense to go out there, get Luke Weaver, and then not do the other things that quite frankly are smaller and cheaper.

starting pitcher may cost about what Weaver costs, but I got to think there's something else out there.

Got to think.

I wouldn't have to think so, but at the same time we are running out of it.

We are right there.

And again, like the deadlines at 6 PM, we could, we could hear stuff roll in a few minutes after just because, stuff coming down to the last minute, letting players

know things like that.

This guy definitely turned his homework in on the last possible minute.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I said, I think his wife proposed to him.

He's very much a procrastinator.

Yeah.

Like it would have been nice to get this.

You look at what they dealt for Luke Weaver and you're like, man, why couldn't they have, it would have been cool to do this maybe a little bit earlier.

but yeah, it's officially 6 PM.

Again, stuff will roll in a little bit after the deadline.

So I expect some things to still come in, but, yeah, as of 6 PM.

Oh, we got, what do we got, what do we got?

We got something.

We got something Kirby Yates, Kirby, the pirates via Ken Rosenthal.

wait, Oh, okay.

I'm okay.

Okay.

He was on the mock trade list.

Yeah.

We, and, he was C tier.

He was C tier, but I'll take, you get the, if you get the eight here, like I said, we wanted an AB and a C is what we wanted.

Right.

but an A and two C's I'll take that.

Like I'm taking like, well, and you got three guys who have all, who have all closed before to three guys who have all closed three guys with postseason experience, three guys with late ending experience.

Landing Kirby Yates is nice.

Yeah.

Still striking out close to 12 per nine.

Good ERA.

Not expensive.

Like I, if you just look at the results in terms of numbers, you probably could have pushed him into the B tier.

Casey Mize to the Padres too.

Yeah.

Probably just going for, but I think the thing is, did we honestly even talk about what you need?

If you got an A tier, which really the A tier was Weaver more or less.

Like, I think our conversation really went, assuming you're not getting Weaver, you need two beats here guys.

Like you need to have two beats here.

We didn't really talk about, I think there's an extent, if you got like a Weaver, what else did you want or what else could you be satisfied with?

They're not done.

Not done.

Okay.

Go Miami.

This is good for me in both ways.

I'm TFO Marlins and I got a new prospect.

Oh, maybe.

But also, it's nice to see the Marlins selling too.

so Lake Bachar, to the pirates as well, who was going back to the PowerPoint.

He was a C tier.

So three C tiers and an A tier.

Hey, mama, I'm back, baby.

All righties.

What is happening?

They got four.

That's from Jeff passing too.

Yeah.

So four relievers.

All right.

That's like a whole, it's like a whole, about five minutes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So just real quick, real quick.

Kirby Yates this year.

everyone knows what Kirby Yates is.

He's 39 years old.

He's been in the major since 2014.

he's got a career 101 saves, 41 saves for the Potters in 2019, 33 saves for the Rangers in 2024.

it still strikes out a lot of people.

That's the good thing about Kirby Yates.

Like the stuff isn't necessarily overpowering.

It's got an average fastball velocity of 91, fastball slider combo.

The slider is really good, in 27 innings this year, 3.95 ERA, 3.17 FIP, stuff plus likes his slider quite a bit, 116 on this, on the slider.

so yeah, I'm a fan of Yates.

He's a guy again on the PowerPoint.

I was like, go out there and get Kirby Yates.

I feel like it, that was, that's a good fit for this bullpen.

So yeah.

Shout out Kirby Yates.

I'll, I like it.

Lake Bachar.

I don't know as much about 31 years old.

he's got four years of eligibility left after this year too.

So a ton of team control, also two minor league options, but in 58 and two thirds innings this year, 3.84 ERA, 4.29 FIP, strikes out over a batter per inning, stuff plus

he's pretty much right around average fastball, 100, curve ball, 109 stuff plus total is 98 heavy slider, fastball, curve ball, combo guy.

So, and a sinker in there too.

he's got a lot of pitches.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

He does have a lot of pitches.

There's five pitches, but yeah, he's like, he's a very serviceable reliever.

And I think what you're going to find, like, it's funny, this scenario is exactly, I think we set up a lot of people were talking for this to happen.

Like weavers, the exception, a lot of these guys, I guess maybe even Kirby to an extent, but the name recognition is just name or so far.

He's not the player that he once was, but it's like, you don't need a bunch of name brand relievers to help this bullpen.

Like they just need some guys to stabilize it and weaver to cap it off.

And I think that's what you're getting here.

Like this, Walker's an upgrade to a lot of guys.

He's not great, but he's a capable reliever.

What's that spark?

Yeah.

My first, the, I'm not going to, my first thought was the rays just made a last minute deadline trade too, for Jack Swinski.

Oh, the rays and Dodgers are cooking.

I'm still waiting on the return on both of these.

Yeah.

Go ahead, Tyler.

No, I'm honestly, one of my first reactions here for a lake, which is a incredibly stupid name, but one of my first reactions was that, is this Carmen Mlodzinski's replacement?

Is he gone?

Can we get rid of him?

Nope.

I wish.

And if they dealt Carmen for any of these guys.

No, I wasn't saying to trade Carmen directly for him, but like, if you got rid of Carmen for something else.

No, there's, like I said, stuff is still coming in.

So you have no idea.

One thing in the Lake Bachar trade, three prospects going to Miami and that.

So again, he's got a lot of service.

He's got a, he's only one year, 24 days of service time.

So there is four years of control that goes along with them.

I wouldn't expect any of these guys to be like significant prospects in this trade, but yeah, three guys are going to be going to Miami in this deal.

It's a lot of guys.

I'm still very surprised though.

We haven't, no position players, no starting pitchers though.

It's all bullpen.

Maybe Carmen's your new starting pitcher.

So far that we know of, but yeah, again, they went and got Weaver today.

They just got Yates.

They got back our backer.

Doval already blocker, that's a baseball already.

Like there's four relievers that this team added right now.

Let's get to some super chats.

Michael B.

Even though there are some few, a few that came in at the buzzer.

He does say, look, he loves our, he loves you guys, but the deadline still sucks.

Yates and Weaver are not going to get this team to playoffs.

BC waited too long.

I'm sad.

Yeah.

this might not be enough, right?

Like that's, it's very much a possibility.

And then thank you to Silas.

He said, Hiles said he wanted Bachar a month ago.

Crazy.

Hey, no one knows, no one knows his ball.

So, yeah, but to Michael B to your point, I agree.

Like it would, ideally he did, he would have done something a month ago to address this bullpen.

And the guys that he did bring in earlier haven't really been effective.

So they're in the position that they are in right now, which is obviously not a great one.

but I will say this, like the bullpen is no longer a weakness.

They significantly raised the floor and the talent levels, of this bullpen.

For sure.

I want to talk about that.

Like who's in the bullpen?

Like who's, oh, I should put it this way.

Who's out of the bullpen now.

Montgomery's there.

Soto's got to be there too.

Right.

Like there's three lefties.

Yeah.

These four.

I am, Murdock gone.

Yeah.

let's pull up the roster.

What does it even look like right now?

I'd assume do tell goes down.

No, Vol's already there.

Right.

So we don't have to account for him.

but in terms of active guys, see a meatball wrong.

Don't tell goes down.

Murdock goes down.

And honestly, like you could, Marinaccio doesn't have any options.

So if you want to just hold onto him, Bachar could go down too.

There is that.

Like that is an option that like, that's a possibility.

But now it's a meatball wrong.

if you want to be a, I've heard a thousand dollars of international bonus pool for him to DFAM after his like, what fourth appearance.

Run out of time to win games.

I need my best.

he stays.

Meatball.

Ron's probably gone.

You're right.

That's also, he's definitely, he's definitely the worst of the bunch.

but real quick, a couple of other super chats coming in.

JJP.

I wonder if they are getting a bat as well from Miami, but at least like that.

Cherington said, Jesus, our bullpen sucks.

Yeah.

Nothing yet on that.

And like I said, stuff could still roll in.

and then Sammy going to use Kelly.

Don't tell to fill in as starters.

Yeah.

they definitely are going to need something there.

deed is thank you for the jewels there.

but yeah, overall they addressed the bullpen need.

You look at the bullpen now and it's flat out.

Good.

Dare I say it's not elite and they still don't have like multiple shutdown arms, but this bullpen's pretty good.

You feel comfortable with it.

If they have a four run lead.

Yeah.

I feel safe now.

Yeah.

It's Montgomery's been pitching lights out lately.

These are major league relievers now, like very much.

So it's a major league bullpen.

Is it a top five bullpen?

No.

Is it a top 10 bullpen?

Yohan.

Yeah.

Yohan's still there.

I'm just thinking of all these levers.

Not like, yeah.

Like, yeah.

Yeah.

you got to get rid of, you got to kick, you got to kick three guys to the curb and maybe that's Murdock, do tell and Marinaccio or those would be three.

Yeah.

Or you option Bachar and use him as depth for now.

Also keep in mind, Evan Sisk is there too.

And he hasn't been activated yet.

Well, that's what I was getting at.

Like think about the guys like lefties.

It's going to be Sisk Soto and Montgomery.

There's three.

You already got Carmen.

There's four.

You're bringing in four.

There's eight.

Yohan's there.

There's nine.

So real quick to baseball America's Jacob Rudner is saying Brandon Bidwa to the Marlins.

Along with Brian Sanchez, who was in part of that David Bednar trade last year.

And then one other.

So, it's also possible, I guess that one other could be, could be a guy that, solves this issue for us.

Yeah.

But, so Bidwa gone.

That's a 40 man spot.

Brian Sanchez is interesting, but far enough away that you're very comfortable, trading him and having a decent season down there.

Yeah.

I don't think Sanchez, if Sanchez is on baseball America's top 30 list, it's on like the very bottom.

I don't, but he's not, he's not on it.

He's not on it.

So, I actually don't know.

Like just looking at this, when sis comes back, I don't know who that for fourth guy is.

it could be Evan sis going down.

I guess it could be him too.

It could be sisk.

Cause that was what Cherington said.

Like they're not activating him until Tuesday's game because of all the trade deadline stuff happening.

Like just better off to keep them not activated as of yet, but I don't, maybe it is him.

the third guy going to Miami is, infielder Hun Sung Lee, who is pretty interesting, but 18 years old,

really young, pretty decent prospect.

I don't think he's on any top 30 list.

Fan graphs has him 44th, but, certainly an interesting prospect, but lottery ticket and very far away from the majors.

And what I am waiting for is that the pirates are going to come out and say that they are going to treat Lake Bachar like a starter and send them down the triple A.

The return for Kirby Yates.

So Kyle Robinson going to the angels, Kyle Robinson going to the angels for Kirby Yates.

He was the person that they acquired for a legal Williams earlier this year.

So right-handed pitcher take that they, so they basically traded a legal Williams for Kirby Yates.

So can't complain.

Can't complain there.

They didn't go up.

Okay.

For Kirby Yates.

Yeah.

easy it was to fix this bullpen, but yeah, again, you just do that.

What are we doing here?

So all in all, I guess if you're counting, I guess, but it was not even in the baseball America top 30, I don't think.

So the pirates gave up one top.

They gave up Sammy's to fora who is 25th.

They gave up Omar Alfonso.

Who's 28th.

That's it.

And they acquired Camilo Doval, Luke Weaver, Kirby Yates, and Lake Bachar.

Some of those controllable as well.

well, they lost, they lost nothing.

Three of them are here next year and beyond.

Like this isn't just Reynolds either.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bachar has control and Weaver's going to be here next year.

And Doval.

Yeah.

And Doval here next year.

Well, it has.

Yeah.

I'm still really surprised they got nothing.

Nothing offensively.

Yeah.

And nothing to help.

That's tough.

but there's also still stuff coming in.

the Caleb Ferguson to the Cardinals just now.

Well, there's why.

So there's also that.

But why?

Why?

I don't know.

I don't know.

We'll have to ask the Cardinals that question, I guess.

They're out of it.

They're selling off and they added a reliever.

Kirby Yates was so sick with the Padres back in the day.

Yeah.

He was really good.

And let's say he still strikes out people.

He's still effective.

This, like I said, I feel pretty comfortable with where the bullpen's at right now.

The return for Casey Mize, by the way, just to mention that, because a lot of people were talking about him as a possible option.

Gage Workman, Jackson Wolf.

Oh, nothing there, but also cash Mayfield.

Cash Mayfield, I think was the Padres first round pick.

Two years ago.

He was their number three prospect.

So.

They traded a real prospect.

That's a sick name though.

For Casey Mize.

Mayfield.

Cash Mayfield.

Yeah, that's a good name.

That's a good name.

Okay.

What are we happy?

disappointed.

Mixed bag.

Yeah.

they got better.

They did.

They're a better team right now than they were coming into today.

I don't think.

Not that I don't think.

I don't know if it's enough to get them into the postseason.

Might be too little, too late here.

It could be just because of where they are as of today.

Like that's what's, that's what sucks is the hole they dug themselves into leading up to this.

There are a few games over 500.

They're right on the cusp of this.

Like you're going to go again, like going back to the fact that the diamondbacks really didn't do much.

I know they got Lars, but it seems as if that's it for them.

Right.

Is that really enough?

they need guys to hit righties.

That's just one guy.

I don't know if that's like the diamondbacks fans and people could be saying the same for them.

Like, is this enough for us?

I don't know, man.

It's going to be an interesting race, but I think the pirates absolutely shored up a huge Achilles heel.

It's just unfortunate.

Some other things have been unraveling during that time, like the starting pitching.

And again, you want another bat because of the bats, but Hey, you know what?

Horwitz is back.

Cruz to be back next week to like, this isn't me trying to, this isn't me trying to play GM speak now.

Like, Oh guys, it's like made a trade.

We're getting two offensive bats back, but where they are today, you're getting those guys back.

They did shore up this.

I'm not here to tell you their playoff team also, but they can be, they can be.

Did Ben do enough to ensure they will?

No, but they can be.

So we'll be waiting out to like the last week of September to find out.

Probably.

Yeah.

I think the nice part of this is you just, you look at the bullpen now and it doesn't suck.

Like it's like no matter who you bring in, you like Yohan Ramirez, maybe your most uncomfortable right-handed reliever now.

And he's been effective as hell lately.

But you look at everyone else and the track records there, the successes there, the success of the back end is there too.

Like, that's what I really like.

Like every single one of these guys that they brought in, well, at least with Yates and Doval and with Weaver, like they have, they have pitched in big games at the end of those games with pressure.

And so when you combine those three with Soto, you combine that with, Mlodzinski, he's still around now.

So maybe you can start using him a little bit, better.

Cause the other thing that Bachar can do for you is he also can give you some length as well.

38 games this year, but 58 and two thirds innings.

So he's averaging, he's average, he's almost averaging two innings per outing, so far this season.

So maybe by landing Bachar, you use him in that more, Hey, I need you to pitch two innings here.

And you can use Mlodzinski now a little bit more in the backend more frequently.

Cause we did hear from Carmen a couple of days ago about how like he's down to be used whenever right now.

So, yeah, good job.

like I said, you look at this bullpen now and I think everybody's got a sub for ERA other than maybe Soto, like Gregory Soto, maybe you're, no, everyone does.

Thank everybody on this in this bullpen as a sub for ERA now.

We'll see.

Dare I say, we'll see.

Go ahead.

No, Bill Murphy hasn't gotten his hands on him yet.

We'll see.

Well, what I was going to say is there.

I say now there's no excuses for Don Kelly.

Now you're going to find out.

Everyone's complaining about Don Kelly.

He's bullpen management.

Well, again, he's had a bunch of turds for bullpen pitchers.

Now he has some weapons at his disposal, some real actual weapons like Luke Weaver, right?

Carmen Bajinsky, some very confident guys, right.

He's a lefty.

Like there's guys in this bullpen now.

So now there's no, well, who was he going to throw out there?

They're there now.

Wait, what's coming in?

Keller's.

But why?

Wait, whoa.

Well, there goes that bullpen spot.

I.

Yeah.

Carmen, Mitch Keller, 60 day IL with a right arm.

Terrace, major muscle injury.

So why the hell is throwing season?

Mitch Keller season is over.

Carmen Mlodzinski will likely take a spot in the rotation.

Why was he still being used?

I can only, it's been obvious all year.

Something's wrong.

I hope.

We have to end it with anger.

Don't we?

And it all comes full circle.

Carmen's back in the rotation.

And I didn't get a starting pitcher.

I did say the Carmen replacement, right?

Kinda.

you know what?

That, Mitch, here's the deal.

Mitch has been extremely ineffective.

Maybe this has something to do with it.

His fastball velocity was down significantly.

His last start.

I hope he's okay.

Get better.

And yeah, hopefully next year, he's a lot more effective.

Honestly, like hats off to Mitch Keller for pitching through it.

As Oscar, the ground shows how stupid he is.

Hats off to me.

I love how he's calling us clowns because someone being put on the 60 day.

I L is not a real injury.

Oh yeah.

I get it.

You can't just, you can't just do that in major league baseball without union, grievances.

So yeah, there's a real injury.

Shout out to Mitch Keller for pitching through it.

Mitch does just shut up the ball.

Like it was, this is why he struggle.

And this is why people try for Mitch, you're rooting for Mitch because he is that dude.

He is about team.

Like for sure.

Yeah.

Hopefully it gets better, but that is, that sucks.

That sucks.

Carmen's back in the rotation now and he's got to be effective, which, we've brought it up multiple times.

I brought it up a few weeks ago where I think I would have made the move to switch the two anyways.

So there you go.

There you go.

Bullpens shored up.

Brandon, I cert has been recalled to take Mitch Keller spot in the, on the roster today.

And yeah, Carmen will most like down tomorrow.

So wait, why?

That sucks.

Why did they bring up Eisert?

Why not Sisk?

Today?

Sisk pitched yesterday, I believe.

Oh, did he?

Maybe they, maybe they want someone who's just available today.

I don't know.

It's a good, Oh, you know what?

They're probably not going to bring, is there room for Sisk after this?

Well, if they're bringing an Eisert up, well, they're going to option Eisert when they, when they activate these other guys.

Well, I'm saying, yeah, I don't know if there's room for Evan.

Oh, I was just not going to have this to begin with.

Yeah.

Like I certs here for today and today.

Right.

Yeah.

Because let's go through this now.

Right.

So bullpen, there's eight spots.

Carmen's out.

So you're looking at.

All right.

Luke Weaver, Gregory Soto, Mason Montgomery, Yohan Ramirez, Camilo Doval, Kirby Yates, Blake Bachar.

And then you got to choose one of.

Do tell meatball, Ron and Sisk.

I'm probably choosing Sisk.

So Sisk is up there probably tomorrow.

That sucks.

So my guess is that do tell Murdock, Marinaccio are out.

Or they keep Marinaccio as long as possible, just because he's out of options and Sisk stays down.

They could do that.

I'm also curious now because like the starting pitch, regardless of, Carmen there, the starting pitching depth has taken a huge hit.

Yeah.

Like when like, what's the future for this team?

Like, is he the next man up as a bullpen or is the next man up as the rotation starter type now?

Well, you've got Kelly, you've got to tell, you've got Curtis when he's back and it's a leg injury.

So it's not necessarily an arm thing.

So I shouldn't keep him out too long.

They've got options.

they're not ideal, but they're fifth starters.

if you, if you need, if you need one of those guys to start a couple of games down the stretch, I think I'm fine, but it's not, hopefully it's a couple.

Yeah.

Hopefully no one goes down.

Let's just, that's just the problem.

Like right now you're definitely running on it.

It's very tight.

They've been really lucky with this rotation, all year long.

this is the first person in the starting rotation to go on the IL since Jones came back, not including Jones cause he was on the aisle to start the year, but right.

Like in terms of people who started, like, this is it.

This is the only injury they've that's occurred this season.

Well, they're apparently comfortable enough with what they have to not add to it through this deadline.

And they're apparently comfortable enough with Jared Jones, Bubba Chandler and Braxton Ashcraft.

Cause they would have known about this Mitch Keller news coming into the deck.

Yeah.

they would have known about this earlier, but probably right after the start yesterday.

Yeah.

It's honestly like, it just, I can't have knowing this now.

I can't believe they didn't get a starting pitcher.

Yeah.

So no starting pitcher knowing the Mitch Keller news and then no bat again, the bullpen absolutely short up.

This team is absolutely better today than what it was yesterday.

And I'm looking at Keller's pitches yesterday.

His fat, his fastball yesterday was averaging 91.9.

He was probably hurt yesterday.

He's probably been hurt all year.

Or at least like mid off.

Yeah.

He's been, well, not all year, but at least like, yeah, for a month and a half, two months, three months, he's been at least a little bit banged up.

But you would also think, I don't know.

You would think that they would do all the testing on him whenever he was averaging 92 on his fastball.

Who knows?

Yeah, that sucks.

Sure does.

But, best of luck, Mitch bullpen needed overhauled and it is now officially overhauled.

so it looks like, yeah, thanks to every, we've got a few super chats we need to acknowledge.

So, thank you everyone for the gifts, the jewels and the happy poop and the clutch.

but Silas, it says, Nikki G is still our third baseman.

He says, besides that it's an a minus, Michael B pirates will be swept at Milwaukee.

No playoff.

A Oh, thanks for the dollar 99 learned during a physical for potential trade.

probably not.

Usually like trades get agreed to, and then it's like pending physicals.

And it, and so that's probably not the case.

This was probably something they learned yesterday.

and then Bryce, thank you for the $5.

Is this a diabolical way to clear a 40 spot?

He'll up Mitch.

Yeah.

that's, it's not the way that you would have hoped to clear up a 40 spot.

That's for sure.

and then shout out to Poppy pit bull for becoming a YouTube member.

So what would you guys grade this deadline overall?

And with that being said, also everyone watching this, go to the website, go to the app.

the Luke Weaver one's only official so far.

So the ones aren't up there now, but you guys can vote on your approval of every individual trade as well.

Like so far, they're all favorable.

84% of everyone who's voted on all the trades that have happened nearing this deadline.

It's all.

Yes.

So far the Luke Weaver trade, 48 yeses and zero no's.

So I would, I would say that's pretty favorable.

Somehow, a few people disliked the Duval trade.

There's a, that one has a 97% approval rating.

Can I ask some backstory to that?

Yeah, it was a hundred percent.

He gave up the home run and people went in there to make it a no.

That's possible.

Honestly, I have people tweet at me.

They said, I'm going in there right now.

I'm disapproving this trade.

Overall, everyone is pretty much liked what they've done in the last week and a half, two weeks outside, the meatball Ron trade.

That one's at 55%.

so, and I feel like that one also gets worse and worse every day.

But yeah, the, once these trades are announced, they will be put into the trade deadline hub.

So make sure you go on your North shore nine app or the North shore nine website, and you can, you can vote on those.

and if you want to relive this great episode, it's right here at the bottom of the page.

So you've got all that there too.

Much calmer this year.

Much calmer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's Cal and Moss and he just went ham on it.

And Cal and Moss is putting up a nice season this year for what he is.

And yeah, there's that.

Yeah.

Overall, I think the Royals trade ended up turning out.

Okay.

Right.

Evan Sisk has been one of the more effective bullpen arms.

the bed and our trade is obviously not been fruitful.

Love to have that one back.

Would like to have that one back.

Having bed and are in this bullpen.

You probably wouldn't have had to have done as much as you did today, but like, what if you add, it would have added Weaver to bed and are, with basically no cash.