BREAKING: Pirates Trade No. 34 Pick in Surprise Deal With White Sox

Yo. Welcome to the North Shore Nine Podcast presented by FanDuel. This is the NS9 Emergency Podcast because, folks, we officially have a trade.

We've been discussing and talking about, will the Pirates trade their comp pick, right? They have pick number 34. There's been rumor that Ben Cherington and the Pittsburgh Pirates could use this to maybe solidify the bullpen, make the trade, and, well, there's just hours until they had to do this, right? The trade, or the trade, the draft.

They had until 11 a.m. Yeah.

Right. So, the draft's tomorrow. They had to do it two hours beforehand. Starts at 1, and we have a deal.

So, Jim, would you like to discuss and reveal the deal?

Let's discuss it. Yeah, the Pirates trade their 34th overall pick in tomorrow's draft. It's their competitive balance A round pick.

Comes with a slot value of, like, roughly $3 million. That's really, like, the real value here is the slot money that's associated with that pick.

they also send left-handed reliever Jaden Woods to the Chicago White Sox, and they acquire, infielder Jacob Gonzalez and left-handed reliever Brandon Eisert.

So, that's the deal. It's, very different from what I was expecting.

I was assuming we were going to have a trade for this 34th pick before tomorrow.

I had, I just had, I had a feeling, DiNardo. but I was thinking this trade was going to be for a reliever. and yes, Brandon Eisert is a reliever.

Brandon Eisert is not the prize, unquote, prize of this deal. Jacob Gonzalez is the headliner if there is one in this deal.

That's, that is the value the Pirates are getting in return here, is Jacob Gonzalez.

And apparently they thought the need to fill in, and do something to the left side of the infield with Konnor Griffin out for these next two months was pressing enough to pull the trigger here.

Yeah, man. Well, those are the terms. That's what happened. Now, I guess to actually truly discuss it in our viewpoints on this. Yeah, man, you hit it. This is not what I was expecting.

And for those of you that have tuned into our Jim Callis show, as a matter of fact, this was a question we asked him because there is certainly potential, even, with talking and texting through him, he was, at the combine and stuff.

And that was actually one thing he mentioned to us before we even talked about the show or that he was just like, Hey guys, have you heard? I'm hearing rumors out here that, they're floating around that pick to be traded.

And as a matter of fact, that's something that we did here. So we brought up to Jim Callis. And again, you can take our word for like Jim Callis even said too. He's like, you can get like a legit reliever for this.

This isn't just like, I hope to pray that you get something out of here and whatever, like you should be able, Mrs. This has some value. You should be able to get yourself like an actual legit reliever in this deal.

So this is something that the pirates, needed was a legit reliever. I think a lot of people tie this draft pick. Like, Hey, here's your way of using, Jim, you've been saying this over again, right?

Like you have to, you have, if you're going to trade it, you have to trade it by now. This is your way of almost forcing a trade to happen today instead of waiting to the deadline to happen.

This team needs relievers go out there, use this. I'm not saying you're going to get an Aroldis Chapman for this. Maybe it's this plus, or maybe you get something comparable close to Chapman.

But like, you're getting a legit reliever and like, I'm sorry, but I, it's not that guy. Like he's not that guy. Now you adding Gonzalez as well. Singularly, one of these guys, isn't that guy.

Like my first take on this, just to put it out there is you needed something to really shore up this team and he used it to replace two needs.

And therefore you're just getting two guys.

Yeah. I guess my thing with this is, and just to answer some questions, because, there's a question in here, context on how valuable the 34th pick should be.

we do have some historical precedents here, right? Like two years ago, the rays were able to acquire Brian Baker for, that wasn't last year.

That was actually last year. Sorry. Last year, the rays got Brian Baker for one of these picks, two years before that.

I think it was the Royals or the national, who was it? Someone got, it was the Royals got Hunter Harvey for one of these picks.

so both of those guys being, pretty good relievers, right?

Brian Baker is a much better reliever now than he was when that trade was made.

But, Brian Baker's always had really good stuff. good fits like he's, he was established a little bit up to that point.

And now he's an all-star. He's the rays all-star closer. Hunter Harvey's been around forever.

So like there's, there has been precedence here that you can get a pretty good relief pitcher for, right?

That's not what the pirates did here. Like they got, they got a reliever.

Brandon, I certain we'll talk about him, but Brandon, I cert is, he's a guy when Evan Sisk is healthy.

Brandon, I cert is probably the fourth best left-handed pitcher in the pirates organization.

When it comes to relief arms, with Sisk out, I certs, the number three guy squarely behind Soto and Montgomery.

Right. that's who he is.

Jacob Gonzalez, on the other hand, I am intrigued here a little bit.

I know you seem to be a little bit more down on him than I am.

he was the, just to give you some background on Jacob Gonzalez, Jacob Gonzalez was the number 11 draft prospect in the 2023 draft.

He was the 15th overall pick in that draft.

And basically as soon as he was drafted, just nothing but underwhelming stuff from Jacob Gonzalez.

he hasn't really hit much at any level.

just not what you want to see out of somebody, but, he's 24 years old now.

It's an Ardo it's his third full year of pro ball.

And he's had a little bit of a glow up this year in triple a, that interests me.

And the fact that he can play shortstop, the fact that he can play third base, he can play second base.

He can play first.

Like he's versatile and he can play shortstop.

It's a move.

Like we talked about last night, like we didn't know if this was necessarily necessary.

Like necessary because the offense is so potent, even with a few of these guys out.

but Jacob Gonzalez probably makes this team a little bit better.

cause now you can essentially plug them at shortstop.

You don't have to play triolo every day.

you can let him play second base a little bit if you need to.

the underlying numbers that you see out of him this year in triple a are, pretty sexy.

And we'll get into that.

but overall DiNardo, this was just not what I expected.

I thought we were going to talk about a relief pitcher that we were acquiring because that is the biggest thing that this church, this team has.

That's the biggest issue with this team is we need bullpen help.

and is Brandon, I cert necessarily going to do that?

Maybe a little bit like Brandon.

I certs probably one of the top eight relievers on this team now, but barely doesn't say much, but yeah.

so it's just, it's surprising to me.

It's surprising to me.

before we go further, I do want to shout out.

Thank you, Michael.

he doesn't like this trade very much.

It seems, he says this trade sucked.

Why trade woods?

I cert is awful.

5.93 ERA.

And Gonzalez is a compliment to triolo.

According to Cherington fire BC.

He is awful.

Yeah.

I said this is not what I expected from this, from this, 34th pick.

And I want to preface this by saying that what I hate if they went and traded for Gonzalez and, or I search like, no, I wouldn't hate it.

But the value that comes with number 34 and using that pick for these two is why I think we're both just like, it's just underwhelming, you're like, you should be using that pick.

This is a bullet that you have use that bullet and go get yourself something that's going to certainly make a difference for this team.

And what we're at is you use that pick to get a guy to say, hopefully they're better than Evan Sisk and hopefully they're better than Jared triolo.

And I'm going to say like, there's a good chance that Gonzalez is better than Jared triolo, but there's nothing guaranteed yet.

You're still hoping that he's better than Jared triolo.

So you use the pick on a guy that you hope can replace and be Evan Sisk and you hope can be Jared triolo.

That's not like a boat of confidence.

I'm like, okay, now this team is better.

Now we're ready for the playoffs, right?

Now we can get ourselves back in the thick of things.

This is just like, okay, we had an injury with Sisk.

You had an injury with Connor.

And here's some guys that we can add to this mix to hopefully be able to play.

But none of them is going to say, okay, you know what?

There's a staple in our bullpen.

That's starting to stabilize.

Now you can start seeing the vision.

Let's prepare for the playoffs.

No, this is still just like, Hey, we got some guys.

We still need to figure things out.

Yeah, I will say this.

The Pirates view Jacob Gonzalez a little bit differently than you do.

Just based off of what I'm, what I'm hearing, they really like the adjustments that he's made this year.

They aren't hoping that solo, they are hoping that he's a plus power hitter that can play the infield for them for the next six years.

Like that's who they got.

Like they like Jacob Gonzalez quite a bit.

and I'm not here to say like Jacob Gonzalez is this elite prospect by any means.

Right.

But like, you look at, you look at the AAA stuff, right?

And you look at, you look at the exit velocities, you look at the max exit velos, you look at the barrel percentages, you look at the hard hit rates.

Like he's looked really good at AAA this year.

he also like he's pull, he pulls the ball in the air.

Like he really has made a really drastic change to his profile this year from last year.

So I'm willing to, I'm willing to give Jacob Gonzalez a shot here because I think he's a different guy this year than what we've seen from Jacob Gonzalez over the last two years.

now will it translate to the major league level?

I don't know, but he's at what 21 home runs this year between AAA and the majors.

He's had a little bit of time in the majors and like, he wasn't, he wasn't bad.

He wasn't bad in the majors.

He was a league average hitter essentially.

and he's just absolutely demolishing the ball in AAA at a, at a hitters friendly park, I'll be it.

But the data still suggests that he's made some adjustments.

he's slugging six 68 and AAA OBP of four 19.

And again, like offensively when he was up with the white socks, he more than held his own.

So yeah, I'm actually really intrigued to see what Jacob Gonzalez can do right away at the shortstop position, particularly against right-handed pitchers.

I think, I think you've set yourself up now because Triolo does actually hit lefties pretty good.

I think you've better.

I think you've put yourself in a place now where like shortstop is not a burden for you anymore.

Like I think a Gonzalez Triolo platoon is just fine right now.

And I think there is upside here with Gonzalez to get somewhat excited about.

I'm not very excited about Brandon Eisert though.

this is, I think he's just a, he's your typical flop lefty, really good extension.

He looks a lot like Bailey falter when they acquired him.

Right.

But worse, falter, at least through the ball, like 92, this guy throws the ball 89.

he gets lefties out.

Okay.

But he's been super prone to the long ball and he cannot get right-handed hitters out whatsoever.

So yeah, that's my thought process on this right now.

Yeah.

Well, again, like going back to the Gonzalez, again, I use Triolo because he's just coming up to the majors.

I would be talking out of both sides of my mouth.

If I say like, well, he should be an impact right now, because again, like that's our MO, like let the guys come up.

They got to develop.

There's no guarantee that he's going to come up and start finding success.

You know?

So again, that's what we're talking about.

Like when you talk about certainty, he has been a prospect.

Yeah.

The minor league numbers were good this year.

He's now just getting his first taste in major league.

And sure.

Like he is holding his own and 95 way to run his greater plus right now.

he's hitting two 44, three 23, slugging three 60 defense is fine.

It's fine.

Right.

So like, it's fine right now, but again, like he is a rookie.

He's probably going to find his struggles.

There's no certainty in adding him right now.

So Jared show over the past, month he's been, his OPS is like, what?

the seven 20, I think over the past month, his defense is fine.

It's not great, but it's fine at shortstop.

So that's what I'm alluding to.

you're hoping, and yes, like they are going to platoon.

So ready lefty.

It makes a lot of sense.

I see this is that's going to be that way.

They are going to platoon.

Jared Triolo will start verse lefties.

Gonzalez will start verse righties and go at it.

And hopefully they're probably about the same player.

And again, I think Gonzalez can be, like I said before, and I still do.

Like, I think it's all certainly can be better than Trillo, but probably marginally.

And that's, again, that's the biggest thing I'm getting at.

Like, you're hoping that he is better than Jared Triolo.

I don't think it's going to be, Hey, Gonzalez is here and he's a replacement of Konnor Griffin.

Like, you know what?

Like that's not, it's not, he's not coming here being a dude, for the believer.

Right.

Like he's not coming here being the dude either.

Like none of these guys are coming in here and being like, okay, I'm here to help you guys go to the world series.

They're just here and they're probably worrying about their struggles and their development.

Well, of course, eyes are 28 years old.

He's not really worried or worried about development, but he's not been a staple of a major league roster at any time.

so again, like when it comes to Gonzalez, like, that's my thing.

And also when you talk about the minor leagues and what he's doing this year and I will defer to them, I've said this time and time again, also like if you believe in a guy, like go get them.

And if they believe in adjustments and this is who they wanted.

Like, sure, go get them.

I'll defer to you, but I'm a little bit of buyers beware as well.

Cause like you say, he's a hair friendly park.

He's never slugged this way.

like you mentioned, he's been a huge disappointment since he's been drafted in the majors.

you look at last year.

Well, I guess right now we'll talk about him right now.

He's slugging, like you said, six, 68 in triple a last year in the limited time that he's called up.

He was slugging two 93 in triple a his time in double a last year.

He was slugging three 69 years before that.

Like he was never over a 400 guy.

hi a, he slugged three 99.

That's the closest he got.

Like he wasn't this guy up until right.

He was and it's a huge jump now.

Sure.

A lot of the underlying metrics show that there's some things to support this, but that's what I'm going to.

I know a lot of people looking at, I've seen so much the OPS in the minor league so far.

And it's just like, I'm not ready to just label this guy, that guy he's just been this guy so far for 52 games right now, this year in triple a, he's never been anything close to this guy.

So again, I'm just a little bit on the buyers beware of who he is.

He is at this point.

And again, going back to Iser, he is a lefty that throws 89 miles an hour.

You can tell me all you want about the extension, but like he is a lefty at those 89 miles an hour.

He's a lefty at those 89 miles an hour.

That's not a guy that you bring in here to say, we need an 18 inning guy.

I cert, by the way, I found that there was a white socks guy tweet.

July 7th.

So this was three days ago.

Brandon, I cert has now allowed 13 earned runs over his last 12 appearances, really getting tough to justify having him on this roster, especially as the fourth left-handed pitcher in the bullpen.

Give someone else a shot.

So like, that's who we're talking about.

We're talking about a guy who's just getting shelled right now.

but I want to push back on Jacob Gonzalez a little bit.

I want to have this conversation because I just, I want to share, like we're talking about, yeah, he has never done this before, but I want to show everyone what I'm seeing when it comes to that.

But first, let's kick it to Cody.

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Okay, so we talked before about, yeah, so we talked before, like, Gonzalez has never done this before, and that's absolutely correct.

But I want to show you, like, if the Pirates had a first-round draft pick who was doing this in AAA as a 24-year-old, like, if this was Termar, like, if Termar was doing this

in AAA, I think people would be ecstatic right now with somebody of this pedigree doing this type of stuff.

He's in the 93rd percentile in expected WOBA, 83rd in expected batting average, 92nd in expected slugging, like, 95th in max exit VLO.

Like, everything looks good when it comes to Jacob Gonzalez.

So that's why I'm a little bit more excited about this than just, hey, you know what?

He's having a good year.

He hasn't before because, like, you can see this is a profile of a pretty good hitter.

So, again, it's AAA.

It's not the majors.

Like, we'll see how it translates, but if the Pirates had a prospect doing this in AAA and they called him up, people would be pretty excited.

That's, I guess, my thought process with Gonzalez is he's doing, he seems to be a completely different hitter this year than before, and the data also suggests it, not just the numbers.

Yeah, and again, like, I'm not here to say you're wrong by any means.

Like, this isn't you're wrong, and I'm just trying to stress, like, I'm a little buyers beware on it because of things in the past.

You know?

And again, this move is a this year move.

like, it has to be.

Like, Gonzalez, he could certainly flourish and become something.

Like, all this stuff, if you really believe in translating and stuff, like, 2027 is a season, 2028.

Like, you know what?

Great move.

But this move was designed, like, you make this trade because you need something today.

You need help now, right?

You need to get to the trade deadline to even entertain.

We're going to be buyers at the trade deadline and do that because then you got to fight for a wild card.

But, like, I want to put this perspective on to you as well.

the Pirates are 47 and 47 right now.

They're in fourth place.

they're outside looking in on the wild card.

But, they're certainly in the hunt.

That's why they're doing this, right?

They need some help when they do that.

At the same time, the White Sox are tied for first place.

Like, they're buyers.

They're going for it.

And they decided it's best of their interest to use these two guys to get a comp pick.

You know?

Like, you're saying Pirates fans would be ecstatic if they saw us in Termarr Johnson.

Well, what would your take be right now?

You see Konnor Griffin go down.

Murakami is down.

Yes, Murakami is back now.

You look at the infield.

the White Sox infield is pretty solid.

Not a whole lot of depth.

Luis Anahel, Acuna is there.

He's not having a great year as far as depth goes and such.

Like, it would be nice to have a nice utility guy.

So, like, Conor goes down or just whatever.

Like, if Tamar was doing this and the Pirates traded Tamar for a comp pick, how would you feel?

Like, that also makes me hesitant.

Like, do the White Sox believe in this?

Or is it them saying, like, hey, let's capitalize this.

Let's get ourselves some more money in this draft and keep building for the future.

Because, again, like, that's what that is.

So, again, like, I'm just saying, like, this is why I'm a little bit just a fires beware mentality on this.

If you saw Tamar doing this and they traded Tamar for a comp pick, you'd be livid right now.

We'd have a university podcast also saying, what are you doing?

Eh, maybe.

If there was, like, no room for Tamar.

Like, that's the thing.

Like, there's no room for the White Sox don't have room for Jacob Gonzalez right now.

So, they make this pick and they get some value in the draft.

And who knows?

Like, the White Sox could also trade that pick for something before tomorrow.

Like, that's also a thing that could happen.

Oh, don't quit for us, Jim.

Which would be wild.

But it is a possibility.

Don't quit for us.

No, I see what you're saying.

And I get the hesitancy because the Pirates still have a glaring need.

And it's the bullpen.

Like, this trade didn't really address that.

It didn't.

Right?

Like, I cert will go into the bullpen and he'll be a guy.

Just like all the other guys that are in there.

But, like, he's not going in there to save the day by any means.

Like I said, this trade, it just caught me off guard because I was fully expecting them to use this pick to address the bullpen.

And they didn't.

They went out there and they got a guy who they really like, who they think can be a starting infielder on this team, I think, for years to come.

And, I don't know.

I want to see what happens.

I want to see what happens.

like I said, he's going to play shortstop for now.

He can play third.

He can play second.

Brandon Lowe's a free agent after this year.

Like, maybe part of this is like, Hey, but this is our next year's third baseman or next year's second baseman, whatever Nick Gonzales, moving him back to second.

Maybe it's an interesting trade because I am very intrigued by who this 2026 version of Jacob Gonzalez is.

Like I want to, I want to watch this guy and I want to see what he, what he's got.

now with that being said, the bullpen still needs a lot of help and they need to go out there and they need to get bullpen help ASAP.

so again, that's why this trade caught me off guard because it didn't address the glaring need.

Shortstop was a need.

Like, I think they determined, Hey, we can't, we can't really stay afloat with the trio.

Gonzalez left side of the infield every single day.

So they went out there and they got some help and they found this and they really liked the guy and they think that he's more than just a temporary plugin, right?

Cause we were talking about temporary plugins yesterday.

We were talking about, the Willie Castro's of the world and the Zach McKinstry's of the world.

We didn't really think of something like this, right?

This isn't, this is a temporary plugin, but also someone with six years of team control, who's a 24 year old former first round pick.

Yeah.

But the bullpen is still a major issue and it hasn't been addressed.

Right.

That's just skin like this to swim at, I would not mind having Jacob Gonzalez in the system by any means.

I just think the value they gave up to get him into the system was just too much.

And again, like you said, I guess just more caught off guard that this was your opportunity to go ahead and get the dude because that complex is going to be covered.

There's certainly value in it and teams that are willing to give up a reliever are probably in rebuild mode.

And this is a way to add a lot of money into the draft, add another pick, however they want to utilize it.

Right.

So those teams like this could really help build their future.

And so go get that guy, go get that draft.

you just saw not that he was outstanding by any means, but Tommy Nance from the twin just made that deal and he's a fine reliever, better than Izer.

But like, you wouldn't use that comp pick on him either, you would expect something better than that.

And, that's not what was accomplished here.

Now, of course, by all means, like this is an end, the trade deadline, this doesn't mean the pirates aren't going to get better.

There's still time.

Just like you thought this was going to be a way that he can be forced to kick it off, be forced to go ahead and make a trade, have something today opposed to just waiting around.

They made the trade.

And like I said, it's to me, it's two guys.

Knowing that you feel good on that, like, okay, we're going somewhere.

This is solidified as you head into the trade deadline.

I'm sorry, as an all-star break and then start slowly approaching the trade deadline just is what it is.

I'm interested in Goss, you say 26.

we're going to have to be, we're forced to be, but it's like, Hey, I'm interested in Gonzalez, like 20, 27, 20, 28, because like that does that at bat there.

And like how he progresses, we'll find out, but at any rate, yeah, I'm just very underwhelmed on what Ben was able to get in return for pick number 34 in tomorrow's draft.

That's just ultimately what it comes down to.

Yeah.

I, again, I think overall, I don't think the value was off.

Like I think they, I think getting Gonzalez here, it doesn't like, it's not a bad trade.

It's just not what I expected.

It's not that's, that's where I'm at.

I really like, if you look at this truly what they need, it's what I'm, it's if you look at this and you just forget about the bullpen issues.

Like, I think this is a, I think this trade is just fine.

the issue though, is that there are bullpen issues and they need to be addressed.

And this was something that you had that you felt you could use to address that bullpen issue.

And that's where the problem is.

So, I just, I don't see much in Brandon Eisert, the pirates released a press release today to, Ben Cherington.

The only thing Cherington said on Brandon Eisert, it was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine words.

And he said, Brandon Eisert makes us even deeper in left-handed relief.

End quote.

That was, that was what he had to say on Brandon Eisert.

And yeah, I think, I think Eisert's probably a little bit better than his six ERA shows.

Yeah.

he's got a, he's got a really high, a really low left on base percentage, which is probably unsustainable.

He's got a home run rate.

That's probably unsustainably high, but like, he's not, he's not anything that you're going to get excited about.

You're not, you're not going to get excited about lefties who throw 89 out of the bullpen.

Can't get right-handed hitters out.

And, he's fine against lefties, but also lefties, he's given up three homers to lefties in 13 innings of work.

so he's, he has not been anything special this year.

So yeah, they still got addressed the bullpen by that at the end of the day, they got a, they got addressed the bullpen.

So to add this here, cause again, this is, there's a piles on to the whole thing.

And like you said, just the problem is, it's like, once again, like think about, and I'm not trying to compare them.

So I'm like trying to compare this, how it's going to go, but think about the trade deadline a few years back when there was the impact guys.

And he went after the Brian De La Cruz because he had team control.

You know what?

Like that's, you need to, you need something that's going to impact this year.

Like Ben's not going to see 2027.

If 2026 doesn't go the way it needs to go.

You know what?

And like this deal, sure.

It helps out right now, but like the value, like you said, that the value of the trade is the six years of control.

I'm not worried about six years of control.

I'm worried about 2026 and the people in power need to really about worry about 2026.

So again, like, yeah, like the value could match up per se, but what's needed for 2026, this doesn't theoretically truly do that.

It may, but again, it may.

You need something that's going to solidify and make sure you have a job in 2027 or else you ain't going to be able to plug in Jacob Gonzalez anywhere you want to, because you're in the unemployment line.

And Bob Nuttings call up corn fairy once again, to find the next GM for the Pittsburgh pirates.

That's this trade.

Yeah, we'll see.

We'll see.

they've got a new shortstop for the next two months.

Yep.

At least versus righties.

At least versus righties.

Yep.

Right.

And again, he's interesting.

He's pretty.

He is interesting.

Again.

But if he, if he doesn't really do anything for you, like if he doesn't hit this potential that you see, then yeah, you look at this trade.

if Jacob Gonzalez isn't contributing to the pirates this year, next year and the year after you're like, eh, I wonder what else was out there.

And that's just it.

Jacob Gonzalez is interesting.

Aroldis Chapman is good.

I don't think Chapman was available.

No, but I could, but no, I know what you mean.

I know what you mean.

That's the point I'm getting at.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We got an interesting guy.

Interesting.

Doesn't win ballgames.

Not saying he can't, but he's an interesting guy.

You need to go get a good guy.

We'll see.

He could be good.

He could be.

There's variance.

There's variance.

Yeah.

No, again, it just, this is a, it's surprising to me.

It's surprising.

Right.

I'm not necessarily saying this is a bad trade right now.

I'm not saying it's a good trade either.

I think it's, I think it's fair and I get good value here.

I'm very interested to see what Jacob Gonzalez can do.

And, I have, I have a little bit more, I think he's got a much higher ceiling than just about anyone else you could have acquired for this pick.

I think that's, I think that's why I'm at least a little, a little intrigued here is because I wasn't expecting a lot from this pick.

Like, I was, I was saying go out there and get Luke Weaver.

I wasn't expecting them to go out there and get Luke Weaver.

Right.

I was expecting them to go out there and get it, get a good major league bullpen arm.

They didn't do that.

But I think Jacob Gonzalez does have a higher ceiling than just about anybody else that they could have gotten.

I agree.

He also might have a lower floor too, but I think he's got a higher ceiling.

Yeah.

No, they say we've mentioned it, but we never really talked about, but they did add Jaden was like, they did have to add someone to this.

And like you said, like that pick might not have gotten Luke Weaver, but clearly they're willing to add something to the pick to get what they wanted.

Like it could have been that pick and something for like a Weaver and such.

They did get that pick and woods to get this package in return.

So again, that's the direction that they went.

Now we just Jaden woods, Jaden woods probably was this team's number four lefty bullpen arm going to this trade.

So you essentially, you're trading your number, like you're swapping woods and I cert and you're hoping I cert is a little bit better than woods would have been, which he probably is.

woods, he just is starting to get into his own.

Yeah, but got called a triple A and hasn't really performed too well there.

So it's a slight upgrade for their left-handed bullpen depth.

That's what this is from a relief standpoint.

Yeah.

Jacob Gonzalez is the prize here.

And I think he's got, I think he's got a lot of potential to be pretty good.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I think that's it.

Pirates have a doubleheader tomorrow.

I'll just say this as of right now.

FanDuel has them plus 55 for the division.

They've now overtaken the Cardinals.

So they're sitting third on the division.

So there is that.

But yeah, doubleheader tomorrow, 12 or five Braxton Ashcraft.

And then what 405 technically Bubba Chandler for the second game.

Also the draft will be going on live now because they decided for all the rain that came down the field tonight, they had to postpone it to tomorrow.

So there'll be the doubleheader.

We'll be live at one o'clock for the draft.

So the NS9 draft show will be on tomorrow at nine o'clock.

I'm sorry, one o'clock.

There's only one pick now.

You have to worry about the comp pick ain't happening.

It's traded.

So Pirates will pick number five who they get.

We'll find out.

But tune in tomorrow.

One o'clock will be live for the draft show.

And then, of course, two postgame shows.

Yeah.

And just real quick, too, before we leave, some people are asking, like, who gets taken off the 40 man for this?

I think the logical move is Konnor Griffin to the 60-day IL.

Yeah.

It's going to be out basically 10 weeks.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

That's what I would expect.

I wouldn't.

I don't think there's going to be any DFAs going on.

I think Brannigan gets optioned.

Gonzalez comes up.

Griffin to 60-day IL.

Yeah.

And who knows if ICERD even joins this team, to be honest.

Oh, yeah.

I guess you need one more 40-man spot, too, don't you?

You're adding two people.

You could DFA Cam Sanders.

You might as well.

There's no point.

Going on waivers.

Yeah.

Sanders and Griffin.

Those are my two.

That would be my guess.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I guess we'll get out of here before we do.

Michael B., once again, another $5 super.

We appreciate it.

He says, baseball trade values.

Twitter account wrote that the Pirates moderately overpaid in this trade.

So that means this trade sucks.

I love Michael B.

Yeah, we'll see.

Let's see how it goes.

Jacob Gonzalez better be good.

You need to win games this year, right?

So Jacob Gonzalez needs to make an immediate impact to this lineup.

And again, it's unfair to him.

It is, but they got to win now.

That's why he's brought here.

So pressure's on now.

You don't really get that development time.

You got to be good.

All right.

Well, let's get out of here.

We'll come back on in like three hours for our postgame draft day, postgame day.

So we'll see you guys later.

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